Talk:Dynastic union

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To prove its independent value, this article could really use some examples of the term "dynastic union" being used in WP:RS with regard to something that is not also a personal union. I quickly browsed the Google and Google Scholar search results for "dynastic union" without finding any such example. The concept, as defined in the article now, is of course a valid one (Denmark, Norway and formerly Greece would be one obvious example), but is it really ever used this way? -- Jao 05:29, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

The Spanish addition does not seem to have improved the situation. Before their respective accessions, the term as defined here would not apply (them not being heads of state), and afterwards, it was a personal union. The given source also does not use the phrase. If it's really this difficult to find examples of non-PUs being referred to as dynastic unions, I begin to seriously think that our definition is off and "dynastic union", when used outside Wikipedia, is synonymous with "personal union". It may also be, of course, that "dynastic union" can refer to an actual joining of two dynasties by marriage, in which case the Spanish example is exactly on the mark but the article's introduction wrong. -- Jao (talk) 19:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
They were not heads of state, but on the marriage they agreed what would happen once they would ascend to the throne. The marriage was also planned with the purpose of performing the union. Dunno about the correctness of the introduction. Notice that I listed here the union of Aragon and Catalonia, but I also listed the son that inherited the titles on Personal_union#Aragon.2C_Crown_of --Enric Naval (talk) 15:37, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

one example that I don't know how to include[edit]

per Payne's source a dynastic union that culminated on Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor inheriting from four different dinasties, but I don't know the details. --Enric Naval (talk) 15:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

This source [1] could be useful to find a pair of examples (you need to check "search on libro" and then click on search). Sorry for not doing it myself right now --Enric Naval (talk) 15:37, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

France & Spain / England & Scotland[edit]

Would England & Scotland really be considered a dynastic union if they had the same monarch? (James VI/I, Charles I, Charles II, and James VII/II)

Also, after the War of Spanish Succession, Spain adopted a Bourbon king under the terms that France and Spain would not have the same king and thus become a personal union. Would this be considered a dynastic union? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:12, 9 December 2012 (UTC)