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Bakersfield Condors affiliation[edit]

Word is that the Condors may not have an affiliation this season. Thoughts on how to handle this in the team table?  Cjmclark (Contact) 01:45, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

  • With "unaffiliated," I expect. Ravenswing 02:28, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
Haha...derp. Indeed.  Cjmclark (Contact) 02:45, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Kalamazoo Wings affiliation[edit]

The Chicago Wolves should remain listed as the Wings' AHL affiliate. The ECHL/AHL "affiliation" doesn't generally truly exist; it's more that the NHL team with which a given ECHL team is affiliated then extends that affiliation to their AHL affiliate. Vancouver may choose to move a promising prospect from Kalamazoo to Chicago, or send someone who's not making the grade the opposite direction. The Wolves' affiliation with the Missouri Mavericks is immaterial to this relationship. Additionally, the league lists Chicago as Kalamazoo's affiliate here.  Cjmclark (Contact) 07:29, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Colorado Eagles affiliation[edit]

This may be semantics, but the ECHL currently doesn't recognize the Eagles' NHL/AHL affiliations (which the team announced here and was reported in an RS here). I had emailed the league because they didn't have the affiliations listed on their webpage or their list of affiliates (here) and was told that the team had not yet submitted the "required Affiliation Agreement paperwork" to the league office. So should we maintain the affiliation because the team announced it, or remove it (from the league page, at least) because the league doesn't recognize it? Sources seem to support the fact of affiliation, but I wanted to ask.  Cjmclark (Contact) 16:38, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

2012-13 Team Map[edit]

I created a map for next season. We can use it if everything that I included is accurate. I was purely assuming when it came to the divisions and team memberships. Here it is

File:2012-13ECHLteammap.jpg
team map for next season

Carolinapanthers17 (talk) 17:30, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

It's a nice-looking map, and I'd be interested to see if the teams you have listed (Fort Wayne, et c.) do wind up in the league next season. The main issue I see with it is that it uses the team logos. Generally speaking, the logos (being non-free use images) are only allowed on the main article page for each team, since that's the only place we can really justify using them. That's why the current map just shows location dots instead of logos. I am interested to see the divisional alignments in the Eastern Conference if the current teams remain. I'd guess Wheeling back to North and maybe SC to Atlantic, with Orlando in the South. Time will tell.  Cjmclark (Contact) 17:48, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

How about using a more-editable map template, which would allow for easy changeover as teams are added/dropped from the league (let's face it, that's a fact of life in the minor leagues!) sort of like this:

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Teams currently in the ECHL. Dot colors correspond to division colors in the league chart. Not pictured are the Alaska Aces of the Mountain Division.

There's some pros and cons, of course. Pros: easy to add/remove teams, clickable links. Cons: there's no map template that includes Alaska that allows for links on the dots (template: North America does include Alaska, as well as Canada, but the teams in the Northeast are squished together too much to allow for legible tags on the dots), there's no historical map record -- a downside to being easily-edited, I suppose -- and the map can't be used on other projects (eg, the French or German ECHL entries) easily.

A sample section cut from the current ECHL article with my map inserted can be found on my sandbox, along with a version that includes Alaska (but no tags on the dots) Thoughts? Tthaas (talk) 12:02, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

  • I think it's a perfectly serviceable map, and we should use it. Good work! Ravenswing 17:28, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Looks great! I'm all for it.  Cjmclark (Contact) 18:47, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
  • I put it in. Hopefully everyone likes it! Tthaas (talk) 00:07, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

2012-13 conference alignments and timeline[edit]

With the Evansville IceMen and the Fort Wayne Komets announcing their entry into the ECHL yesterday, the IceMen website now lists conference and division alignments for all 23 teams (everyone returning from the 2011-12 ECHL less the Chicago Express, plus the new additions of the San Francisco Bulls, Orlando Solar Bears, Evansville and Fort Wayne), which can be found at http://www.evansvilleicemen.com/3918/2011-12-echl-league-alignment -- it seems to be a premature release of the info before the Board of Governors meeting, so I put the info into the "future teams" section. I did not add it to the current teams section, as it seems to make sense to wait for the BOG meeting for an "official" announcement. I also added all 4 new teams on the timeline, listing 5/17/12 as their starting date; should the starting date for Orlando and San Francisco be 1/11/11 and 9/21/11 respectively, or should we put them all in on 7/1/12 (when everyone else arrives/leaves the timeline), or something else? Tthaas (talk) 12:53, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

That's a good question. I'd personally be inclined to use the July date since that seems to be the de facto start of the season in question. The real question here is when will the league finally throw in the towel on the Columbia Inferno?  Cjmclark (Contact) 01:19, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
We'll have to wait for the BOG meeting to see about Columbia. I'll modify the timeline to use July as the start date. Tthaas (talk) 00:21, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, the new alignment is out and pretty much fell out as expected. As far as Columbia, the ECHL is being typically circumspect. They said nothing about Columbia at all, but did cap the league at 26 teams and expressed a desire to add 3 expansion teams in the west. Not much room for Columbia in that plan, but (as usual) no definite pronouncement.  Cjmclark (Contact) 21:47, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Given the BoD's lack of word on Columbia, combined with the emphasis on adding 3 Western expansion teams... perhaps it's time to move the Columbia info to the "former teams" section? At this point, I think they've given up the ghost.Tthaas (talk) 14:10, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Since the 2012-13 Slignment is up, should the "League alignment as of conclusion of annual ECHL Board of Governors meeting on August 1, 2011.[13]" line be removed? I'd do it myself, but I didn't know when this summer's BoG meeting took place. --Paploo (talk) 19:39, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Good point. I changed things over to reflect the 2012 BoG meeting, which ended on June 25. Tthaas (talk) 22:45, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Toledo Walleye founding date[edit]

I have had to revert edits changing the founding date for the Toledo Walleye in the teams table three times now. From the team's Wikipedia entry: "The Walleye were founded in 1991 as the Toledo Storm and they play their home games at the Huntington Center, which opened in 2009." The table lists the founding year of the franchise in question, which in this case is the Toledo Storm, which was founded in 1991, had a two-year suspension and change of ownership from 2007–09, and resumed play as the Walleye in 2009. If there is any confusion about this, please express it here instead of changing the date again without discussion.  Cjmclark (Contact) 20:24, 16 January 2013 (UTC)