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Book importance[edit]

I think this Ecopsychology article overrates the book Ecopsychology (1995). The term and idea of e. is older than that. John Scull's excellent article makes that clear. - Jussi Hirvi (8 Dec. 2005)

I just cleaned this up by adding a reference to Roszak's earlier (and better) The Voice of the Earth. I didn't change the reference to the other book, though, since it's a collective work. The fact that Roszak gets so much credit is that he's a shameless publicity hound, as are many scholars, especially those who like to coin terms and phrases. It kind of goes with the territory, doesn't it? - Danielbu (22 Apr. 2007)

Founder link[edit]

This isn't linked to from the article on the founder. Secretlondon 11:02, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC). Omission has been fixed by other by this date. --Lauriec 08:47, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

You mean Theorore Roszak? It's linked now (not by me).

Shamanic counselling[edit]

Shamanic counselling is quite different than Ecopsychology, though the two operate under similar principles. An analogy would like saying that a lamp is synonymous with electricity. Solace098 19:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Please point out the difference in the article. I mentioned shamanism as there is a chapter on it by Leslie Gray 'Shamanic counceling and ecopsychology', pages 172-182, in the book Ecopsychology 1995 edited by Roszak, Gomes and Kanner--Lauriec 08:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Some think this article is biased.[edit]

It assumes that this theory is scientifically sound, completely correct, and contains absolutely no criticism of ecopsychology. It is also written in a confusing and obscuring style, which makes it very difficult for most readers to comprehend. Lord Patrick 03:42, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
The article probably does need a section called 'controversies', as in the evolutionary psychology article. Rather than can it, why not do it? I'd be happy to see some editing from non believers, so we have some detail to improve. Cheers--Lauriec 08:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Agreement; this article reads as a shill for the links appended at the end. Normally there's a fair correlation between the content of the article and the amount of external links given, but not here. 24.151.128.208 20:14, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Disagreement: I don't find this article biased, I'm just unhappy with its sloppy writing and lack of citations. Maybe the folks who think it's biased should ammend the article with a paragraph or two (plus links and citations) supporting their arguments.

Disagree: Can I just add that this is nothing new or unscientific, in its truest sense. See Goethe's writing on what a true science should encompass. Or, better yet, see Laura Sewall

  • Sight and Sensibility: The Ecopsychology of Perception*

Tarcher/Putnam, 1999.

Man, woman, wake up. It's not just about what comes in, but what's coming out too.

Agree: the article uses quite a lot of words like sane, crazy, excellent, and so on, in a factual context and with very little qualification. Few claims are substantiated by a proper citation, and some are even blatantly unpsychological: e.g. not one of self-centeredness, alienation or insensitivity has anything to do with delusional thinking. As a result, the article seems more like a tract than an encyclopedic treatment of the subject. Decoy (talk) 12:15, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

I've addressed the advertising wording, I've look hard for criticism but didn't find any. Evolutionary psychology is more controversial as it makes specific claims / predictions that are up for debate. Ecopsychology, not as much. One could fault ecopsychology for being more spiritual in practice than scientific, there would need to be reliable source to back that up. - RoyBoy 22:22, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

References missing[edit]

As there are no references at the end of the article, it really should have a tag to indicate this. I have put in the link to transpersonal ecology - as the person who started that article, I have included some references, but these are all journal articles from "Journal of Transpersonal Psychology". If any one has read books by Warwick Fox, it would be good if s/he could cite these both here and at the end of the article transpersonal ecology. ACEOREVIVED 22:20, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I hope folk do not object, but I have now added a tag to note that this is an article with a lack of sources - apart from websites, there are no references at the end. ACEOREVIVED 21:49, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

References added. Lauriec (talk) 11:00, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Conservation Psychology[edit]

My suggestion is to keep the two separate, but place a link to each, such as under the 'also' heading. Both topics have a different set of references and workers in the field. They may be working in parallel and should combine in the scientific literature. But that is not for wikipedia to do. Lauriec (talk) 10:58, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I think the two are separate Roszak and others didn't want to see ecopsychology become just another discipline within psychology of which conservation psychology arguably is, there may also be different arguments drawing upon different ontologies and epistemologies underpinning the two

My experience has been that conservation psychology is mostly interested in seeking ways to change behaviors using existing psychological paradigms as the basis of research. This includes either a very physical-chemical oriented approach to the human brain, or some of the "personality complex" theories that trace back to Freud. Ecopsychology is more interested in how to change the *values* that underlie environmental behaviors - therefore I believe that the two are very different and should remain separate.

Psychoecology[edit]

I think psychoecology and Ecopsychology are diferent and the first one should have its own article. A french writer (Jean Pierre Alain FAYE) defines precisely this concept: http://www.psychoecologie.net/ --Ecureuil espagnol (talk) 14:02, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

• Conservation psychology’ is a new name for a convergent area of applied psychology which has been more directly involved with conservation initiatives, targeted behaviour change to protect the natural environment, people-animal interactions, and the human side of natural resource management. Conservation psychology is also a network of researchers and practitioners who work together to understand and promote a sustainable and harmonious relationship between people and the natural environment (e.g., Saunders, 2003; Saunders, Brook & Meyers, 2006).

• Ecological psychology refers both to the work of environmental perception and cognition, following from the work of Gibson (1966, 1979) and the revolutionary and paradigmatic shift proposed by more contemporary theorists (e.g., Heft, 2001; Reed, 1996). Ecological psychology also refers to the work and perspective of Barker and his disciples (e.g., Barker, 1968, 1976; Wicker, 1979, 2002), the developmental framework of Bronfenbrenner (e.g., 1979), and some more recent psychological perspectives on environmental problems and sustainability (e.g., Howard, 1997; Winter, 1996).

• Ecopsychology is a much more encompassing humanities and cultural studies perspective and movement concerned with people-natural environment connections and well being, with some psychology representation, but with roots in the broader environmental and human potential movements, and strong spiritual and therapeutic leanings and objectives (e.g., Reser, 1995; Roszak et al., 1995). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rkarma (talkcontribs) 08:16, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

University Assignment[edit]

Howdy, folks! I'm the university student who's working on this article as an anthropology assignment, as per the banner above. Yes, I know it has been a while since I put that banner up there... alas, scheduling. So far, my plan is to delve into those referrences and sources, and do something about fixing the in-text citation issue. I'm also going to try using my university resources to see if I can find any relevant material, and trying my hand at some copyediting, since I have been led to believe that I'm good at making things read nice. I'll add to my mission statement if I think of anything else, and if there's anything anybody thinks I should try doing, feel free to shout! EmeraldWithin (talk) 23:36, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Here are all the websites an online sources I have extracted material from.

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Application[edit]

Perhaps there should be a section devoted to the applications of ecopsychology and a list of "peer-reviewed" therapies developed from this area of research. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rcalder (talkcontribs) 19:50, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Notability?[edit]

One editor asked me to justify adding the notability tag: My concern was that the sources attached to this article were either self-published (Anderson, giapsychology). We only seem to have one article that mentions the topic in any significant way (psychology today), and I'm not sure if that alone implies notability for this subject. --Salimfadhley (talk) 14:46, 21 December 2013 (UTC)