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Roosevelt and the media[edit]

I've reduced this section a bit, since it lacks inline citations and relies quite heavily on a single historian's particular viewpoint. (The rewritten version has inline citations to the JSTOR article, but alas, I don't seem to have access to the book through any local libraries.) I've also moved it to be a subsection of the First Lady section, since it appears to primarily deal with her writings in the White House years. As always, let me know if I'm overstepping myself; I'm glad to discuss if anybody has differing opinions. -- Khazar2 (talk) 03:16, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

To do[edit]

Okay, I've sourced most of the information in the article now, and wrangled a few redundant or overlapping sections into what appears to me a more straightforward outline. I've also reduced a few more sections that appeared to me to get undue weight (such as the Spellman fight). Here are some things I think the article still needs, which I'll be addressing in the coming week: *a mention in the marriage section of FDR's late-in-life attempt to reconcile with ER and live as husband and wife *More detail on her growing political role in the '20s, particularly the way she would tour as FDR's "eyes and ears" as governor

  • More detail on her role in the UN DHR

I've got a pile of books to look things up in at the moment, so I'm glad to take any suggestions that others may have for this "to do" list. Cheers, -- Khazar2 (talk) 22:24, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Memorial[edit]

Per the suggestion of the GA Reviewer (which I agree with as well), I've collapsed the individual section for the statue of Eleanor Roosevelt into the death subsection. Right now this article doesn't have dedicated sections for much more significant and widely discussed aspects of her life--her possible lesbian affair, her advocacy for women's rights, her work as First Lady of New York, etc.--so a full section for this statue seems excessive. If the statue is internationally famous in a way that I'm not understanding, though, I'd be happy to look at additional sources on this and help expand. -- Khazar2 (talk) 03:27, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Khazar: the memorial is notable (if not internationally famous) as the first American monument to a First Lady. Rather than give it a separate section, I separated it into a second paragraph, owing to the gap in years between Roosevelt's death and the monument's dedication. Also I created a new Wikipedia article for the monument (along the lines of other articles about Riverside Park monuments), and will embellish it there, rather than in the ER article. Buckyboot (talk) 01:37, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

That's an excellent solution--thanks. Do you have a source that this was the 1st american monument to a first lady? That would be a good sentence to add to the article. -- Khazar2 (talk) 03:27, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

I can only find two sources: a 1996 article in the NY Times states that the monument's backers claimed that the monument was the first dedicated to a "president's wife." I don't understand how that differs from a "first lady" except to enlarge the pool of candidates, i.e. to include women who were married to a president and may have been or not been First Lady. Secondly, the Riverside Park Conservancy website makes a similar claim. I cannot find another monument to a president's wife, searching online, and I am not sure how to prove a "negative" in this case. Perhaps the claim should be mentioned, but qualified as a claim, rather than a fact.Buckyboot (talk) 23:21, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Sound good. Could you add the NYT citaiton to the article? Or if you give a link, I'll be happy to do it. Thanks! -- Khazar2 (talk) 11:58, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Tomorrow Is Now (Penguin Classics) [Paperback] Eleanor Roosevelt (Author), Allida Black (Introduction), Bill Clinton (Foreword)[edit]

Tomorrow Is Now (Penguin Classics) [Paperback] Eleanor Roosevelt (Author), Allida Black (Introduction), Bill Clinton (Foreword)

PLEASE LIST ON HER PAGE!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.79.236.93 (talk) 15:23, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

No need to shout. =) The article doesn't currently have a list of her complete works, so I see no need to include this one. It didn't appear from her biographical materials that I looked at to be particularly significant. -- Khazar2 (talk) 15:49, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Favourite[edit]

Eleanor Roosevelt was a common target of Nazi propagandists. This might be mentioned.

Can you please suggest a reference which can be used to support such material? Nick-D (talk) 10:32, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
See www.bytwerk.com/gpa/naziimages.htm
A self-published website isn't a very good source by Wikipedia standards. (See our policy on reliable sources). Can you check one of Roosevelt's biographies for this?
Though I personally find this interesting, I should warn you, too, that as a summary of a long public career, this article can't include every detail about her life, so we'll want to be sure it's a topic that her biographies discuss in detail. -- Khazar2 (talk) 12:02, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
See Marian Anderson.

Infobox[edit]

I've removed an addition of ER's extended family tree to the infobox, which overloads it with information; per the infobox instructions, "Only use those parameters that convey essential or notable information about the subject", which a complete list of her extended family surely isn't. It's also odd and inaccurate to replace "African Americans" with "Africans" and "Asian Americans" with "Asians". I did leave her parents in, though--thanks for that addition. -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:57, 5 November 2013 (UTC)