Talk:Eleftherios Venizelos

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Former good article nominee Eleftherios Venizelos was a History good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
July 9, 2011 Good article nominee Not listed

Fictional "facts"[edit]

Venizelos was in reality a staunch monarchist - his row with the king aside. Also, King Constantine planned, fought and won those battles and new lands, not Venizelos. However, Venizelos did wisely insist on attacking the Turks at Thessaloniki against the will of Constantine (who wanted to attack further north). --Nikoz78 (talk) 01:04, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I do not follow your argument. Along the same line it was the Greek soldiers that fought the battles not Constantine. Constantine was the person (while his father was king) that was giving orders to those below him but was not for most of the part (at least based on my memory from the sources was so far in the current article) formulating foreign policy and war campaigns. In other worlds he was mostly a passive actor and when he was active (after the death of his father) he was mostly on the wrong side of history. If you have reliable sources please share them.A.Cython (talk) 16:03, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Venizelos was Cretan.[edit]

I wrote the reason why removed that part of the origin of Venizelos. Make research if you want, but you don't have to make research for any monkey's propaganda.

It's a lie, he refers Mistra and laconic origin! and in brackets (Spatra)... that shows what kind of people wrote this, as Mistra has nothing to do with Sparta.

Sparta was there 2.5 thousands years ago,none knew where was Sparta some decades ago and none knows what Mistra means! it's the foreign name of nowdays Sparta... :D I'm saying this for understanding who they are.

The whole thing is a lie spreaded because Venizelos is important and his origin must be in the fog... must be not Cretan. An other theory wants Venizelos to be jew... They do such things with anything looks important. If you taking articles seriously and the whole Wikipedia you should remove propaganda.

thank you very much Marouloharakas (talk) 22:51, 11 September 2013 (UTC)