Talk:Elf (Dungeons & Dragons)

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Comparison[edit]

Some comparison needs to be made here between D&D elves and Tolkien Elves. After that some comparison should be made between D&D elves and elves in later fantasy genres, Everquest, Warcraft, etc. Mathiastck 00:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Added reference to Elf and Elves in fantasy fiction and games to put D&D elves into perspective. This also resolves the question of the source for the assertions made about the characteristics of Elves. Golodh (talk) 14:06, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Elven Ages[edit]

I believe (not complete sure), but elves reach physical maturity at 25 years of age and mental maturity at 125 years of age. This might be for just Forgotten Realms, But this might need looking into. HVulpes 15:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

The numbers differ in every printing. I consider the 2nd Edition Elves Handbook canon :) After Tolkien. YMMV Mathiastck 21:44, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Lythari[edit]

Can we get a source on these guys? Not because I'm overly critical, but because I seriously want to play as one, and having an official source would go a long way towards convincing most DMs.Xiphe 16:03, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

In 2ed they were found in Elves of Evermeet . In 3/3.5 Ed they are mentioned in Races of Faerun under the Lycanthropes setion of the other races, but in this they are a type of Werewolf with an Elf as the base, a good alignment and no hybred form. They tend to run in packs and have friends more then generic werewolves, plus seen as signs of powerful nature magic by elves. HVulpes

'Races of Faerun' is the most recent rules source on these, for 3.5 - though who knows what awaits them in 4. The lythari play a role in the plot of the Elaine Cunningham novel, 'Silver Shadows', and may at least receive a mention in her upcoming 'Reclamation'. Lythari dwell in a demi-plane, loosely tied to the wildest parts of Faerun, prefer to avoid conflict, and maintain close ties to the fey. They are as rarely seen by deep forest elves as wild elves are by their more civilized cousins. Hope that help.s —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.213.146.172 (talk) 20:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Snow elves in Forgotten Realms[edit]

I am fairly sure Snow Elves do not exist in the Forgotten Realms. The subrace was introduced in a general game accessory, Frostbite or whatever, and never a canon Realms source. Until a source is cited, I'm removing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.115.32.217 (talk) 22:07, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Snow Elves were mentioned in the book Frostburn as you stated. ALSO, Snow Elves were set up for the Grayhawk setting the printing of Dragon Magazine #155 in an article by David S. Reimer. I'm believe the article was called "A New Elven Character Race: The Snow Elves" but am not 100% certain and will need someone to confirm this. Chances are the original poster confused the setting. Feel free to check on this information and add it to the list if it is accurate. 24.159.249.241 (talk) 03:45, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Hmm. During AD&D there was a large amount of cross-polination of ideas between Forgotten Realms, Greyhawk and Dragonlance. Races created for one setting were often later imported into another setting. So even if you find Snow Elves in a Greyhawk source, it does not disprove a link to Forgotten Realms. I suggest that you ask about this at a Forgotten Realms forum (like Candlekeep). Big Mac (talk) 18:53, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Less prominent elven subraces in 4th edition[edit]

Is there any official information on Aquatic Elves, non-Drow Dark Elves or Lythari in 4th edition? -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 06:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

The article could also use some information on Avariel and Star Elves. I'm guessing that Star Elves are officially classified as Eladrin, but, like Aquatic Elves and Lythari, the Avariel don't seem like they'd fit into any of 4th edition's three major Elf categories. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 04:26, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Multiple issues tag[edit]

Someone has tagged this article as having multiple issues. But they have failed to state these issues on the talk page. I do wish that people wouldn't "tag and run" because it is very difficult to improve articles, if you don't know what is wrong with them.

Apart from the "in universe" issue (which has a separate tag), does anyone have an idea of what is supposed to be wrong with this article? Big Mac (talk) 18:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Bad drawing[edit]

Aside from getting FR elves stats straightened out, this article seriously needs to lose that ridiculous drawing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.198.119.26 (talk) 12:28, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

If someone could upload an image of the current iteration of D&D elves, that would make everything better. Wikipedia isn't letting me do it.IronBeefCurtain (talk) 17:20, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong with the image I added to this article, but if a consensus of editors would prefer a different (and suitable) image, I naturally wouldn't object to having it changed. But please don't feel free to add an image of any old elf you happen to like, as you did here. The image you added is from a feature film. It has nothing to do with Dungeons & Dragons, and your justification for adding it is frankly ridiculous. Such edits can be considered vandalism. Desist. Polisher of Cobwebs (talk) 00:36, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
The justification is sound, as the only responses granted are "That is ridiculous," and "That is nonsense," with no explanation for how it is ridiculous or nonsense. As there is no given reason, I am forced to assume there is no reason, rendering the reverts to be obligatory for the sake of the integrity of the article. IronBeefCurtain (talk) 04:45, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
No longer an issue. The current iteration of elves image is around. 04:56, 8 April 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by IronBeefCurtain (talkcontribs)
It is ridiculous nonsense to use an image that has nothing to do with Dungeons & Dragons in a Dungeons & Dragons article. It was also a violation of copyright. I couldn't care less that the image I added has been replaced with something else, so long as it's not a copyright violation. Polisher of Cobwebs (talk) 07:00, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
As D&D is Lord of the Rings with different mythology and magic, especially in the earlier editions, they are completely related, especially with the way elves look. That is why it is not nonsense. Also, how is it a copyright violation to use an image already up on another page? I'm asking so I understand, not for rhetoric.PlutoniumCurtain (talk) 22:09, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Wrong. D&D is a game, an independent product that's quite distinct from Lord of the Rings. There may an influence from Lord of the Rings on D&D, but that doesn't mean that you can use an image from a Lord of the Rings movie here. Images like that one of Legolas are copyright - they can be used only on pages where they are strictly relevant. See WP:NONFREE. Those are the rules, and I didn't invent them. Polisher of Cobwebs (talk) 22:14, 8 April 2012 (UTC)