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Semi-protected edit request on 16 January 2014[edit]

212.121.212.207 (talk) 16:34, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done see List of titles and honours of Queen Elizabeth II#Royal titles and styles. DrKiernan (talk) 16:57, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 January 2014[edit]

<My suggestion is that Her Majesty be referred to as Elizabeth the Great. This would avoid upsetting the English for whom she is Queen Elizabeth II, and avoid upsetting the Scots and Canadians and others for whom she is Queen Elizabeth I. It would also be pleasing for many in the women's movement, I would suggest - there is an Alfred the Great but no female monarch is referred to as being 'The Great', and such a title might also be pleasing to members of the royal family who might see the title as being recognizing of the Queen's long service and good works. >


212.121.212.207 (talk) 14:25, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done PoV not an edit request

No controversies please, that would be disrespectful.[edit]

Interesting how this Wikipedia "Featured Article" does not even mention the controversy about her numbering (Elizabeth I vs Elizabeth II).

"Featured Articles" such as this one are the work of enthusiasts who flog some hobby horse.

Contact Basemetal here 04:39, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

That's because there is no such controversy. If you disagree, please provide some proof. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 10:08, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Just read Regnal number#Ordinals and the Acts of Union 1707. Plus, it's been well known for more than 60 years. Why don't you read up a bit before you start accusing people of making stuff up? At most you should have said "I have never heard of such controversy". Contact Basemetal here 10:22, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
If Jack really needs to "read up a bit", perhaps it's not so well known. Nor important. HiLo48 (talk) 10:44, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
So he defines what's well known and important, right? This interesting reaction shows a level of sophistication which might explain a few things. Contact Basemetal here 10:58, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps, but perhaps you also need to be little more careful with the words you choose. That one of the important skills of communication. HiLo48 (talk) 11:07, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
As I said above in a different section, this is already covered in the "List of titles..." off-shoot article. It's insufficiently important for the main article. DrKiernan (talk) 10:31, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
That's a matter of opinion but ok. Thanks for the pointer. There was no mystery. I was just curious where in WP one could find information about this. As usual (see above) it's the ignorant who accuse people of making things up. Contact Basemetal here 10:42, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Ah, the diplomatic approach. Clever. HiLo48 (talk) 11:17, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

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  • As I read the link provided by Basemetal, the controversy blew up in 1952 and subsided in 1953. So, while there WAS a controversy, there no longer IS a controversy and there hasn't been one for over 60 years.
  • I have accused nobody of making anything up. I simply denied Basemetal's original thesis, and challenged them to produce evidence to support it ("If you disagree, please provide some proof" does not equal "You are making this up"). The link they provided does not support their thesis. They are free to come up with different evidence if it exists.
  • The only other unsupported assertion that has been made in this thread is the one made by Basemetal about "the work of enthusiasts who flog some hobby horse". This should be withdrawn.
  • We are now at what is commonly known as Square 1. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 11:35, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2014[edit]

I would like to edit on this oage as kI belove that some of the information is incorect Kyleprice1998 (talk) 11:49, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

What information? DrKiernan (talk) 12:07, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
X mark.svg Not done User has not provided specific details of what change needs to be made. Also the fact that user has previously vandalised an article here makes me doubt his request. EthicallyYours! 16:20, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

The appropriate way of addressing and referring to Queen Elizabeth II.[edit]

I find it odd that the article refers to Queen Elizabeth II chiefly by her first name. Though this may be a component of the egalitarian, objective nature of Wikipedia, it is not customary to refer to her this way. Rather, she should be referred to as 'The Queen', 'Queen Elizabeth', or Her Majesty.

I ran a quick search on whether this was discussed earlier, though the results were not helpful. Any thoughts on this? Storms991 (talk) 06:15, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

In this and other articles, we use the person's name. In Her Majesty's Dominions and Territories of course one uses her titles, but outside them it is not required. TFD (talk) 06:58, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

We're not addressing her personally and in a forum like this, "the Queen" could mean the Queen of Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Spain, etc. She also is a person as well as holding a title. 74.69.9.224 (talk) 20:56, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Jewish heritage[edit]

This article does not mention Queen Elizabeth's Jewish background. (Even the name "Elizabeth" is Jewish/Hebrew.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.248.240 (talk) 22:09, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Her Jewish background, whatever it is, is clearly not a significant aspect of her life. HiLo48 (talk) 00:23, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
You need to provide a reliable source, not just the History of the Kings of Britain or a Larouchie pamphlet. TFD (talk) 03:22, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Her Jewish "background" such as it is, is pretty irrelevant. Having a name of Hebrew origin is very common in the Western world. I have a Hebrew name and I'm Protestant, as do millions of others. Assuming the notation above is in good faith, I will let it slide. But if you're trolling for a forum for your anti-Semetic views, I will report you. 74.69.9.224 (talk) 21:00, 15 April 2014 (UTC)