Talk:Ellis Reynolds Shipp

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Commendations to Contributors .!.[edit]

I enjoyed reading the entry for Dr. Ellis Reynolds Shipp and will be making
a typing correction from 'Ship' to 'Shipp'. I'm sure the error was inadvertent.

Sometime later, I will give a rating to this page. I'll read rating criteria first.
Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 21:26, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


It is, of course, an honor to work in Wikipedia; I am a fan!
"While Others Slept" is the autobiography and journal of Ellis Reynolds Shipp, M.D.,
in our possession. You can find it at rare-book stores or via Amazon.
The title refers to how she would arise two hours early to study medicine
before preparing breakfast for a pioneer family and then dress kids for school.
I'll read up on adding references and then add the book to the list in this article.
Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 22:43, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


Thanks, Greatly, to those who have improved this page. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 15:12, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


There are a few WP pages where I will have suggestions for pictures (and will be studying how to do that.), 69.225.118.149 (talk) 14:22, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for the unsigned idea; I put "~ ~ ~ ~" but hadn't signed in. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 14:24, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I'll try to contact author Ellis Shipp Musser about the 1962 copyright on photo on pg 277. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 15:00, 29 August 2010 (UTC) Maybe she will want to add the photo herself. (She is Dr. Shipp's daughter.)

Isn’t it amazing how recently pioneers lived? Dr. Shipp died 31JAN1939 and I was born a year and a half later. We are closer to pioneers than we may think. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 05:12, 3 December 2013 (UTC)


Question: How do you put a ref at the end of the second sentence of the Article? Such as pg 277 of "While Others Slept"
I thought I would try the following (in curly-bracket-braces) " { } " [ ( But I don't want the following to appear above, it needs to be below.) ]
cite book |title=While Others Slept last=Musser |first=Ellis Shipp |year=1962 |publisher=Bookcraft |location=SLC Utah |isbn=0884945693 |page=277
Thanks In Advance, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:12, 29 August 2010 (UTC) PS: The picture of the board is very, very interesting, FYI.

Yes check.svg Done -- A lot has been learned from looking at good editing. TNKS, Narnia.Gate7 (talk) 23:26, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

The leading paragraph[edit]

I do not think the first paragraph is long enough; not enough information on why Dr Shipp's history is important and interesting. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 20:21, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I've added two sentences; two medical organizations need to be documented. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 20:33, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
You could add something about her ancestry and also other features of her background (education, religion, pioneer heritage, places lived, etc.). RCSwiki (talk) 23:00, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Questions (needing valuable answers) . . . about medical practice in early Utah history[edit]

There are some interesting details that can go into the Article, if they can be discovered. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 20:48, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Did Ellis Reynolds study medicine in Utah? (I don't know.) From a prior WP edit: "21:23, 28 January 2010 Rich jj (talk | contribs) (4,411 bytes) (I see no evidence from the Utah History Encyclopedia that she ever studied at the University of Deseret.)"
On the other hand, "she studied medicine in Salt Lake City with a Dr. Gunn" before studies began in Philadelphia.[1]

Starting April 2, the 1940 US Census will be available for review and INDEXING .!.[edit]

Let us know if you are interested. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:24, 15 January 2012 (UTC) . . . But since Dr Ellis R. Shipp passed over in 1939, it will help only with insights on her children and posterity. In other ways the history revealed with the snapshot of the 1940 US Census can help this Article. Lynnette and I will do the INDEXING and you can do the followup research. :-)

Deseret Hospital Association does not have a page. Perhaps info revealed in the 1940 Census can help. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 18:49, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Deseret Hospital Association[edit]

Information for this section can come from This is the Place Heritage Park, where a replica of the hospital has been built. (We will contact them soon.) RCSwiki (talk) 22:55, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! We, too, will visit there with our next visit to SLC, Utah. — Carrie Lynnette Sims Shipp (talk) 12:05, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Additional references to consider . . .[edit]

Article-1: Ellis Reynolds Shipp—Mother and Doctor by Julie Wardell

QUOTE: “Ellis Reynolds Shipp knew firsthand about the sickness and death the Saints had to deal with. At the age of five she traveled in a covered wagon with her family to Pleasant Grove, Utah. While Ellis was still a young girl, her mother died. Later, five of her own children died in childhood. Ellis knew how important it was for every mother to learn the laws of good health.” [A dozen paragraphs; has this been included?] — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 04:27, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

This poem exemplifies her life: "Father, Cheer Our Souls Tonight"[edit]

Father, Cheer Our Souls Tonight
[Hymn 231 in the current LDS Hymn Book]

Father, cheer our souls tonight;

Lift our burdens, make them light.
Let thine all-pervading love
. . . shine upon us from above.

Calm the surges of the soul;

Bid the dark waves backward roll.
Let us all thy mercies feel
...through the power thou dost reveal.

Bless our loved ones far away;

grant them health & peace, we pray
In their hearts let holy light
. . . beam to guide their steps aright.

Let implicit faith and trust

... Help us know thy ways are just.
May thine every tender love
. . . lead our hearts to thee above.


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