Talk:Emeril Lagasse

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
          This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects:
WikiProject Biography (Rated B-class)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.
B-Class article B  This article has been rated as B-Class on the project's quality scale.
 
WikiProject United States / Louisiana / New Orleans (Rated B-class, Mid-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions.
B-Class article B  This article has been rated as B-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Mid  This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
Taskforce icon
This article is supported by WikiProject Louisiana (marked as Mid-importance).
Taskforce icon
This article is supported by WikiProject Louisiana - New Orleans (marked as Mid-importance).
 
WikiProject Food and drink / Foodservice (Rated Start-class, Mid-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Food and drink, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of food and drink related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Start-Class article Start  This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale.
Checklist icon
 Mid  This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
edit·history·watch·refresh Stock post message.svg To-do list for Emeril Lagasse:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:
  • Article requests:
    1) Build a list of cookbooks with ISBNs for that section
    2) Research and expand merchandising to include other branded products; Essence, sauces, etc.
  • Expand: Television section


Mistake to correct: "Lagasse has been known to say, “Bam!” throughout his career. While it may be entertaining to think he trademarked the word, Lagasse actually coined the phrase from his friend Tom Ratchford, who is the originator of using the word."

If so, Lagasse didn't coin the phrase, his friend did. Lagassee borrows/uses/steals it.

signed: greenskate

Cleaned up since I also found use of the word "trademark" misleading in the article. Unsure of what general practice is with the to-do list; erase the mistake entry..? Aeonoris (talk) 15:36, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Wife[edit]

Emeril's wife's name is Alden. With an "N". Not Aldeh. 184.77.203.226 (talk) 16:50, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Futurama[edit]

There should be a sidenote about Lagasse being the inspiration for Elzar on Futurama.I couldnt find a reference right now though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheLurkerattheThreshold (talkcontribs) 13:43, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Complaints[edit]

This whole article totally sucks. It's a disgrace. These morons talk about Emeril live being canceled before even mentioning what it is. Wikipedia is a damn joke...... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.30.156.157 (talk) 03:23, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

He never graduated from Johnson & Wales. He was later given an honorary diploma.

How did Emeril Lagasse contribute to the cuisine? —This unsigned comment was added by 24.193.79.41 (talkcontribs) .

I'll wait to see if other people respond favorably to this, but shouldn't someone put something on here about how many chefs seem to hate Emeril and his idiotic "bam" and "kick it up a notch" hamminess (bad pun, sorry)? (Anthony Bourdain in particular.) (arevolvingonob)

Are there that many people that hate the "bam"? I know Bourdain has reservations about Emeril, but it is noted in his article (as is his aversion to Rachael Ray). -- Chris 04:53, 22 March 2006 (UTC)hello peoples my name is Ron "Tatersalad" White

Who gives a shit what Bourdain thinks about anything? He couldn't carry Emerils jock stap man. He's a fart in the wind compared to Emeril.....

Late to the discussion, but yes. Really, it's a divide in the Culinary field. There are those of us who despise him, and others who like him/like the catchphrase. Luca 10:42, April 30 2006 (EST)

He was born in 1952 which makes the stated age of 53 incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.64.147.70 (talk) 19:48, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Sources?[edit]

There are no sources for criticism or praise. That's why I put up a template. --Crazysunshine 07:18, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Local Dislike[edit]

Has anyone else expirenced this? I lived in Lousiana, and visit often, but whenever he is brought up, it's always in a nagetive way, almost like he "sold-out" after leaving Commander's. If anyone can cite this, I think it could be beneficial. FerventDove 17:06, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Katrina hit during his book tour, and instead of cancelling it or diverting resources, he fired all his employees, cut his losses, and hasn't opened up shop since. He betrayed the city that gave him so much, and the locals know it. I would post something here, but the Times-Picayunne article I wanted to cite is reg-only/gone (http://www.nola.com/entertainment/t-p/index.ssf?/base/entertainment-0/1129442125252110.xml)

Minor Edit[edit]

Someone edited this in the trivia section "Paved the way for Cool chefs like Bobby Flay, G. Garvin, Guy Fieri, Jack McDavid, etc.". I'm not really familiar to Wikipedia's trivia standards but I'm pretty sure that's not trivia one reason because it's more of an opinion (notice where the editors says cool). But I'm also not familiar with Lagasse so he probably did pave the way for other famous chefs. Anyways I'm going to let you guys decide where to put it, that's if your going to put that piece of info at all.

Why is his first name used throughout?[edit]

I realize that most people know him as "Emeril," but Wikipedia has a policy to use last names, not first names, after the first reference to someone. The only exception is for stars known only by their first name, such as Cher, a position for which Lagasse doesn't qualify. Even Elvis Presley is referred to as "Presley" in his article. Moreover, it's inconsistent as "Lagasse" is used in a few places. Explain? Moncrief 18:56, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Do you think that's the worst problem with the article? It needs major cleanup for content as well as other style issues. I just recently added the article to my watchlist and haven't done any editing besides vandal reverting, but given the general condition of the article, I wouldn't expect there was a particular motive for the usage of his first name that needs explaining. You should have just corrected it. AUTkxckbllklxlklklkbxiger » talk 20:07, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I think I've fixed them all and done some minor cleanup. Still needs more as well as some restructuring. AUTiger » talk 20:27, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Er, I didn't say I thought it was the worst problem in the article. The article needs major cleanup. I was just pointing out this particular issue, and I didn't want to change it until I'd brought up the subject on the Talk page, which I thought would be the polite thing to do since I hadn't edited the page before, and perhaps there was some reason why he was being referred to by his first name that I wasn't aware of. Moncrief 16:14, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Sorry; in retrospect, I was apparently in an irascible mood last night. I do think it's fairly obvious looking at the state of the article, the history and the talk page that there aren't really any regular editors (caretakers) for the article. Hopefully, you approve of the cleanup I've done so far (definitely not finished) as well as the ToDos. AUTiger » talk 18:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Biography[edit]

There is no mention of his family in the article, except that the bio section discusses when he met his first wife. Doesn't make much sense to discuss his first wife without even mentioning his current one or any children. MikeND05 01:38, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Not left out intentionally; I got interrupted/distracted with other editing (and real life) in the middle of my big renovation of this page. Feel free to add the Personal section yourself with the family info. I know he and his son were just featured in a recent Food & Wine mag. AUTiger » talk 18:06, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I love it: "unusual sentence constructions". What a nice way to phrase it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ff1959 (talkcontribs) 22:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

merger[edit]

I don't think that this should be merged with the tv show. anybody else? RC-0722 (talk) 16:20, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

The merge suggestion is the other way around, that the show should be merged into this article. As the sitcom only lasted 7 episodes, a paragraph or two in his article would cover it well and the article on the show right now is just a stub. AnmaFinotera (talk) 18:18, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Merge The television article is woefully short of context and content. A series that lasted only 7 episodes is unlikely to gender more content, and adding context is only going to repeat much that is in the main article. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:29, 2 February 2008 (UTC) Merge. Agree with LessHeard vanU Domestic Purée (talk) 03:39, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

  • I was bold and redirected the other article to this one. -Brougham96 (talk) 22:35, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
    • The The Mike O'Malley Show only lasted two episodes and has an article. There is a lot of content about the Emeril show online and a much better article could be written about the TV show and since there are so many articles about shows that lasted fewer episodes a new Emeril article should be created. There is a lot of info not in the Emeril article about the show. What is the opinion here? That if people are interested they can look elsewhere? Qwerty786 (talk) 04:47, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

"Cool"? Really???[edit]

I completely removed the section on Emeril's "coolness" and his influence over other "cool" chefs. I'll lay out my reasons here and let the community debate it before anyone decides on putting it back or keeping it out, or modifying it. But for now, let's keep it out untill we resolve this, because it makes the article look really unprofessional.

  • Use of Subjective Ajective and Oppinion

- The term "cool" hardly seems appropriate for use in an encyclopedia (online, offline, opensource, or otherwise). It's completely arbitrary and open to personal tastes. There might be an argument that Lagasse paved the way for celebrity chefs, and ones that reached out to new, younger, demographics in particular. Emeril arguably brought a greater sense of culinary awareness to the masses (especially lower socioeconomic classes) while simultaneously taking popular cuisine and eating tastes and "elevating" them (or at least garnering them somewhat more respect amongst culinarians, thus part of the reason for the so-called divide between those that like and dislike his style). He also crossed the line between chef/television instructor and entertainer in a way that few other television chefs ever did--becoming a pop icon and connecting with mainstream audiences and attaining a level of popularity that was unprecedented (that should be cited, however). But to substitute the word "cool" is not an adequate discussion of these issues. "Cool" is open to interpretation and is a value judgement that has no place in this article.

  • No Citations

- That brings me to the next big problem, the article seems to take the stance that Lagasse is, in fact, cool, as are the other chefs listed and that they all have him to thank. Even if the section is modified to focus on real and impartial issues like popularity or style, there need to be citations in order to avoid this becoming an oppinion. Even if we assume Emeril is "cool" and his compatriates are as well, there is the problem of establishing his role in their success. I'm sure many a food writer has listed Emeril as a key figure in the food revolution of the past few years, but this is an argument, not a fact. Hence, cite it or remove it.

  • Problem Examples

- The other "cool" chef's listed largely come from Food Network, that presents the question of bias in the labeling itself as well as the selected examples. The real problem is a confusion between "cool" and "mass appeal"/"popularity" as well as target demographics. Or maybe I'm to understand that Food Network is synonomous with "cool chefs"? While I personally love the channel and its programming and I would also argue that there's a link between the network's success and the phenomenon of celebrity chefs and higher level cuisine in modern American pop culture, I would hardly say that this is impartial.

I doubt many of you needed much convincing on these points, but just in case, there you have it. Let's leave the section out entirely unless someone wants to rewrite it with appropriate citations, focus, and perspective. A serious look at Emeril's role in changes relating to the popularity and status of chefs, the phenomenon of the celebrity chef, and the popularity and perception of cooking and cooking styles in American cuisine are all valid topics, but I don't think Emeril's "coolness" is a valid section in any encyclopedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.74.102.247 (talk) 18:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Date of birth[edit]

I don't know what his exact date of birth is, but I believe what's listed is wrong. I remember a mention of his 50th b-day on TV years ago. The source may be incorrect. MasterPainter (talk) 19:57, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

It also lists him as a graduate of culinary school at age 18, since it states he was born in October 1959 and graduated in 1978. His date of birth is wrong. MasterPainter (talk) 04:13, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Birthplace[edit]

The article says his birthplace is St. Louis, MO but the box says it was Fall River, MA. Does anyone know which one is right? Or is that trying to say he was born in Fall River and raised in St. Louis? Willcrys 84 (talk) 13:16, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


Full Name[edit]

If his son is Emeril John Lagasse IV then logically this guy needs to have III added after his name in the opening line and in the top line of the data box under his photograph. Furthermore, his father's name seems to be missing the middle name of John, which logically it should have. Dick Kimball (talk) 19:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Not necessarily. In many states you can name your kid more or less whatever you want. A UC Davis law professor wrote a very interesting research paper on this recently (http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1747858). That his kid has the suffix "IV" does not necessitate that Emeril has the suffix "III" as part of his name. Same deal for the middle name. Theoretically, I can have a son and give him the suffix "XIV" even though we have completely different names. However I will concede that it's likely that Emeril has the suffix "III", and that his father has the middle name "John". —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 11:27, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Awards?[edit]

Can someone please hyperlink his newly announced 2013 award from the James Beard Foundation? Im not familiar with WIKI and IDK how things work that well. Thank you!