Talk:Emeril Lagasse

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Mistake to correct: "Lagasse has been known to say, “Bam!” throughout his career. While it may be entertaining to think he trademarked the word, Lagasse actually coined the phrase from his friend Tom Ratchford, who is the originator of using the word."

If so, Lagasse didn't coin the phrase, his friend did. Lagassee borrows/uses/steals it.

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This whole article totally sucks. It's a disgrace. These morons talk about Emeril live being canceled before even mentioning what it is. Wikipedia is a damn joke...... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.30.156.157 (talk) 03:23, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


Bold hi im coolHe never graduated from Johnson & Wales. He was later given an honorary diploma.

How did Emeril Lagasse contribute to the cuisine? —This unsigned comment was added by 24.193.79.41 (talk • contribs) .

I'll wait to see if other people respond favorably to this, but shouldn't someone put something on here about how many chefs seem to hate Emeril and his idiotic "bam" and "kick it up a notch" hamminess (bad pun, sorry)? (Anthony Bourdain in particular.) (arevolvingonob)

Are there that many people that hate the "bam"? I know Bourdain has reservations about Emeril, but it is noted in his article (as is his aversion to Rachael Ray). -- Chris 04:53, 22 March 2006 (UTC)hello peoples my name is Ron "Tatersalad" White

Who gives a shit what that P-town fag Bourdain thinks about anything? He couldn't carry Emerils jock stap man. He's a fart in the wind compared to Emeril.....

Late to the discussion, but yes. Really, it's a divide in the Culinary field. There are those of us who despise him, and others who like him/like the catchphrase. Luca 10:42, April 30 2006 (EST)

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[edit] Sources?

There are no sources for criticism or praise. That's why I put up a template. --Crazysunshine 07:18, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Local Dislike

Has anyone else expirenced this? I lived in Lousiana, and visit often, but whenever he is brought up, it's always in a nagetive way, almost like he "sold-out" after leaving Commander's. If anyone can cite this, I think it could be beneficial. FerventDove 17:06, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Katrina hit during his book tour, and instead of cancelling it or diverting resources, he fired all his employees, cut his losses, and hasn't opened up shop since. He betrayed the city that gave him so much, and the locals know it. I would post something here, but the Times-Picayunne article I wanted to cite is reg-only/gone (http://www.nola.com/entertainment/t-p/index.ssf?/base/entertainment-0/1129442125252110.xml)

[edit] Minor Edit

Someone edited this in the trivia section "Paved the way for Cool chefs like Bobby Flay, G. Garvin, Guy Fieri, Jack McDavid, etc.". I'm not really familiar to Wikipedia's trivia standards but I'm pretty sure that's not trivia one reason because it's more of an opinion (notice where the editors says cool). But I'm also not familiar with Lagasse so he probably did pave the way for other famous chefs. Anyways I'm going to let you guys decide where to put it, that's if your going to put that piece of info at all.

[edit] Why is his first name used throughout?

I realize that most people know him as "Emeril," but Wikipedia has a policy to use last names, not first names, after the first reference to someone. The only exception is for stars known only by their first name, such as Cher, a position for which Lagasse doesn't qualify. Even Elvis Presley is referred to as "Presley" in his article. Moreover, it's inconsistent as "Lagasse" is used in a few places. Explain? Moncrief 18:56, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Do you think that's the worst problem with the article? It needs major cleanup for content as well as other style issues. I just recently added the article to my watchlist and haven't done any editing besides vandal reverting, but given the general condition of the article, I wouldn't expect there was a particular motive for the usage of his first name that needs explaining. You should have just corrected it. AUTkxckbllklxlklklkbxiger » talk 20:07, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I think I've fixed them all and done some minor cleanup. Still needs more as well as some restructuring. AUTiger » talk 20:27, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Er, I didn't say I thought it was the worst problem in the article. The article needs major cleanup. I was just pointing out this particular issue, and I didn't want to change it until I'd brought up the subject on the Talk page, which I thought would be the polite thing to do since I hadn't edited the page before, and perhaps there was some reason why he was being referred to by his first name that I wasn't aware of. Moncrief 16:14, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Sorry; in retrospect, I was apparently in an irascible mood last night. I do think it's fairly obvious looking at the state of the article, the history and the talk page that there aren't really any regular editors (caretakers) for the article. Hopefully, you approve of the cleanup I've done so far (definitely not finished) as well as the ToDos. AUTiger » talk 18:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Biography

There is no mention of his family in the article, except that the bio section discusses when he met his first wife. Doesn't make much sense to discuss his first wife without even mentioning his current one or any children. MikeND05 01:38, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Not left out intentionally; I got interrupted/distracted with other editing (and real life) in the middle of my big renovation of this page. Feel free to add the Personal section yourself with the family info. I know he and his son were just featured in a recent Food & Wine mag. AUTiger » talk 18:06, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I love it: "unusual sentence constructions". What a nice way to phrase it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ff1959 (talk • contribs) 22:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] merger

I don't think that this should be merged with the tv show. anybody else? RC-0722 (talk) 16:20, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

The merge suggestion is the other way around, that the show should be merged into this article. As the sitcom only lasted 7 episodes, a paragraph or two in his article would cover it well and the article on the show right now is just a stub. Collectonian (talk) 18:18, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Merge The television article is woefully short of context and content. A series that lasted only 7 episodes is unlikely to gender more content, and adding context is only going to repeat much that is in the main article. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:29, 2 February 2008 (UTC) Merge. Agree with LessHeard vanU Domestic Purée (talk) 03:39, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

  • I was bold and redirected the other article to this one. -Brougham96 (talk) 22:35, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Cool"? Really???

I completely removed the section on Emeril's "coolness" and his influence over other "cool" chefs. I'll lay out my reasons here and let the community debate it before anyone decides on putting it back or keeping it out, or modifying it. But for now, let's keep it out untill we resolve this, because it makes the article look really unprofessional.

  • Use of Subjective Ajective and Oppinion

- The term "cool" hardly seems appropriate for use in an encyclopedia (online, offline, opensource, or otherwise). It's completely arbitrary and open to personal tastes. There might be an argument that Lagasse paved the way for celebrity chefs, and ones that reached out to new, younger, demographics in particular. Emeril arguably brought a greater sense of culinary awareness to the masses (especially lower socioeconomic classes) while simultaneously taking popular cuisine and eating tastes and "elevating" them (or at least garnering them somewhat more respect amongst culinarians, thus part of the reason for the so-called divide between those that like and dislike his style). He also crossed the line between chef/television instructor and entertainer in a way that few other television chefs ever did--becoming a pop icon and connecting with mainstream audiences and attaining a level of popularity that was unprecedented (that should be cited, however). But to substitute the word "cool" is not an adequate discussion of these issues. "Cool" is open to interpretation and is a value judgement that has no place in this article.

  • No Citations

- That brings me to the next big problem, the article seems to take the stance that Lagasse is, in fact, cool, as are the other chefs listed and that they all have him to thank. Even if the section is modified to focus on real and impartial issues like popularity or style, there need to be citations in order to avoid this becoming an oppinion. Even if we assume Emeril is "cool" and his compatriates are as well, there is the problem of establishing his role in their success. I'm sure many a food writer has listed Emeril as a key figure in the food revolution of the past few years, but this is an argument, not a fact. Hence, cite it or remove it.

  • Problem Examples

- The other "cool" chef's listed largely come from Food Network, that presents the question of bias in the labeling itself as well as the selected examples. The real problem is a confusion between "cool" and "mass appeal"/"popularity" as well as target demographics. Or maybe I'm to understand that Food Network is synonomous with "cool chefs"? While I personally love the channel and its programming and I would also argue that there's a link between the network's success and the phenomenon of celebrity chefs and higher level cuisine in modern American pop culture, I would hardly say that this is impartial.

I doubt many of you needed much convincing on these points, but just in case, there you have it. Let's leave the section out entirely unless someone wants to rewrite it with appropriate citations, focus, and perspective. A serious look at Emeril's role in changes relating to the popularity and status of chefs, the phenomenon of the celebrity chef, and the popularity and perception of cooking and cooking styles in American cuisine are all valid topics, but I don't think Emeril's "coolness" is a valid section in any encyclopedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.74.102.247 (talk) 18:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

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