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- 1 Comments
- 2 external link
- 3 principal characters
- 4 location of Highbury
- 5 'deals with' for 'treats with'
- 6 Elizabeth attracted to Wickham?
- 7 character of emma
- 8 "Emma and the Werewolves, a mashup novel by Jane Austen.. ??"
- 9 Excellent rewrite of Plot summary
- 10 Page for Emma Woodhouse [the character]?
- 11 2010 Film Version?
- 12 Plot Summary similar to sparknotes.com
- 13 naming
"Also, it really should be noted that the father-figure is a particularly villanous version of the generally inept fathers portrayed in Austen's novels."
How so? Mr. Woodhouse is ailing and dependent, but I can't remember him being anything other than kind hearted. He seems to be going senile. Emma's devotion to his welfare is consistent proof of her good nature. Durova 07:02, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
- I don't think Mr Woodhouse could fairly be described as "particularly villainous", but one does have to wonder if he uses is valetudinarianism as a way of manipulating the people and events around him — whether subconsciously or consciously. Ondewelle (talk) 22:02, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
There's something wrong with the External Link to Ye Olde Library or the site seems to have been hacked...
Zee rocks 02:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have a problem adding the following link of a hypertext version of Emma, http://www.thefinalclub.org/work-overview.php?work_id=10, to the external links section of this page? There are several other wikipedia links to other content on this site, which is a great resource for academic content and literary commentary. The site also allows any visitors to log in and contribute his or her own commentary. Sorry if I stepped on any toes by just adding the link, but I've posted to talk pages before an no one has ever responded. In fact, I'd be surprised if anyone responded to this. Andrewmagliozzi 02:57, 10 March 2008
- Your site has been reviewed several times by editors from the various pages you have posted to, per the comments on your talk page. The general consensus seem to be that the site does not meet the external links guideline. --Ckatzchatspy 18:58, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Why aren't Emmas sister Isabella, her husband John Knightley (and their 5 children) not under "principal characters" ? John has to put up with Mr Woodhouse as a father-in-law Hugo999 21:53, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- So what? Whether or not a character has to put up with another character does not make that charater a principal character. Mr. and Mrs. John Knightly (and their 5 children) are minor characters. Prtwhitley (talk) 03:34, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
location of Highbury
if Highbury from the novel is indeed in Surrey, it cannot be the Highbury, Greater London, linked in this article. Furthermore, the novel, 'Emma', states that Emma's sister is settled 16 miles away in Brunswick Square, London, http://www.gutenberg.org/files/158/158-h/158-h.htm#chap01. I think it more likely that Austen's Highbury is fictional in the neighborhood of Weybridge, Surrey, which is approximately 16 miles from Brunswick Square, London.22.214.171.124 (talk) 01:30, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
'deals with' for 'treats with'
Ondewelle, please explain your reasoning why the phrase 'deals with', exchanged for 'treats with', improves this passage, particularly in the context given. Thank you.--Jbeans (talk) 08:21, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Elizabeth attracted to Wickham?
Isn't it a bit too much to state there was an attraction? It's made clear in the novel that she was never in love with him, and that her partiality wasn't an effect of her feelings for him but his flattering her vanity wounded by Darcy. She’s much more similar to Emma in that than to Marianne. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 02:09, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
character of emma
emma to me seems to be wilful as we read JANE AUSTEN'S novel. the way how she persistantly continues to do what she does even George Knightly advises her to stop especially when she plans to contiue with her match making habbit.Please am i right when i say so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 13:44, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
"Emma and the Werewolves, a mashup novel by Jane Austen.. ??"
1. This terminology is confusing to a typical reader. Even if one is cool to the latest vibes of "mashup", this choice of words --seeming to declare the willing collaboration of a long-dead and defenseless author-- is deceptive or confusing to the rest of the world.
2. I urge our Wikipedia community: clarify to our readers when it reports a mashup title that depicts the original author as a collaborator to the mashup of his/her own creative work.
Excellent rewrite of Plot summary
Thank you Anon...110; your rewrite greatly improves this article; an excellent example of reporting the story of the novel--rather than re-telling the story (while wool-gathering and repeating all the maximum details; reader be-damned.). Your economical and skilled writing reported the gist of the plot while cutting the verbiage word-count over ten percent. Welcome aboard and stay with us!--Jbeans (talk) 07:00, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Page for Emma Woodhouse [the character]?
First off, I'll just ask: Does Emma Woodhouse have a page of her own that I'm just missing? Let me know, if so. But I haven't been able to find one and so I think it doesn't exist. If that is the case, then I think one should be created. Her importance, as the protagonist of a Jane Austen novel, is such that a page is deserved. Mr. Knightley has a page, after all. I'd be willing to help out, at least some, in making the page--but I have little experience. Not at all sure if this the right place to propose such a thing, so go ahead and tell me if I'm doing this wrong. Alex60466176 (talk) 01:08, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
- I agree with you! I went ahead and created one, though it needs a lot of work. Emma Woodhouse Cabbers (talk) 19:18, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Someone needs to point out all the oblique evidence that Emma is a lesbian at heart: her attraction to a pretty young girl, he indifference to marriage, her strong father fixation up until he dies, etc. She marries at the end, but more to comply with custom and avoid being left an "old maid" than from real love. She seems simply resigned to marriage as a social necessity.184.108.40.206 (talk) 22:32, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
2010 Film Version?
Does this really exist? From the article: 2010: Emma, starring Sarah Cotton as Emma.
Plot Summary similar to sparknotes.com
The plot summary in this article appears to be very similar to the Plot Overview for Emma on sparknotes.com. I thought maybe there should be at least a citation, or maybe the section should be re-written? I don't really have a good understanding of the way these things work (like maybe the author on sparknotes.com also wrote the wikipedia section, so it doesn't need a citation...?) so I figured I'd pose the question here on the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 09:08, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
- It's not just similar, it's identical. Needs to be changed IMO. Anyone up to the task?
- The current version of the plot summary 18.104.22.168 and praised above in section #Excellent rewrite of Plot summary. I think the SparkNotes text dates from August 2002. The plot summary ought to be reverted to . -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:06, 10 November 2011 (UTC) on 2 April 2010 by