Talk:Eric Holder

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Tea Party and tobacco connections?[edit]

What do other editors think about [1]?

"... The Court stated in a footnote that 'Despite the apparent conflict of interest, a few law firms, particularly Covington & Burling and Shook, Hardy & Bacon, represented the shared interests of all the Defendants and coordinated a significant part of the Enterprise’s activities.' Today, a partner from Covington & Burling, Eric Holder, sits at the helm of the U.S. Department of Justice. Until his return to his former law firm in March of this year, following a devastating portrayal on PBS’ Frontline over his failure to prosecute Wall Street crimes, the head of the criminal division of the Justice Department was Lanny Breuer, also a partner at Covington & Burling."

I am inclined towards inclusion. EllenCT (talk) 04:03, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

The source, Wall Street on Parade, looks like a non-RS, blog and thus not acceptable, especially in a BLP. – S. Rich (talk) 00:19, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
I agree. Their mission statement - "Wall Street On Parade hopes to level the playing field between Wall Street and the 99 percent" - precludes them from being used as RS at all. Calidum Talk To Me 04:24, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
The information is from the court opinion at [2] which is reliable, is it not? EllenCT (talk) 09:00, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
There is no mention of Holder in the court opinion, so the opinion has no relevance to this article. And since WSOP is non-RS, it cannot be used from the get-go. The court opinion does not change that fact. – S. Rich (talk) 17:18, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Are you seriously challenging the assertion that Holder and Breuer were partners at Covington and Burling? EllenCT (talk) 04:07, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
You need to find a reliable source that states the importance of this, not more of the POV BS you usually add. Calidum Talk To Me 04:08, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Bank of America image removal[edit]

The following has been removed:

[[:File:Bank of America wordmark.svg|right|thumb|Bank of America was fined $335 million in 2011 for minority discrimination. <ref>{{Cite news|title=Countrywide Will Settle a Bias Suit|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/22/business/us-settlement-reported-on-countrywide-lending.html|date=December 21, 2011|first=Charlie|last=Savage|work=[[The New York Times]]|accessdate=December 24, 2011}}</ref>]]

This image and caption was entirely inappropriate for several reasons: 1. Holder was simply AG, and did not actively handle the case. (He stands to the side in the NYT picture accompanying the story.) 2. BoA was not fined – it settled the case. 3. While BoA paid the settlement, BoA did not discriminate – the allegations were all related to CountryWide practices which occurred before BoA bought the company. With these factors in mind, the image and caption is POV and UNDUE. – S. Rich (talk) 16:37, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Image count[edit]

We have 9 images of Holder and 1 related to a case. Four of his images are at the podium. I submit that 1 image at the podium, with POTUS, is sufficient. Removing the other 2 [3] would give him 2 official portraits, 1 meeting room picture, the Wounded Knee memorial picture, and the Fair Sentencing signing photo. (For a total of 7 article images.) This would comply with image policy (WP:IUP) which says "They should be relevant and increase readers' understanding of the subject matter." – S. Rich (talk) 16:51, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Fixing the mis-count above. The 3 non-POTUS podium images are now removed. – – S. Rich (talk) 17:45, 30 June 2014 (UTC)