Talk:Eric Kandel

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Looks like this page needs some reworking for factual accuracy (e.g., Kandel wasn't so much interested in learning theory/machine learning as he was in human learning). Also, the article's treatment of Kandel's history seems to hop around a bit rather than presenting it chronologically. Putting this on my to-do list. --Diberri 12:19, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)


Also, might want to mention his book, Principles of Neural Science (Kandel, Schwartz and Jessel) which is pretty important reference book for many.


His textbook was very important in his career. I think it needs to be expanded on a bit to give readers a better idea of his writing. --hhearst —Preceding undated comment added 19:59, 25 June 2011 (UTC).

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Note on "Continuing Work at Columbia University"[edit]

I am employed as a Research Scientist by the New York State Psychiatric Institute (NYSPI), at the Columbia University Medical Center (CUMC). As part of my duties, I work as an editor in the Department of Psychiatry in CUMC. The text I am contributing is biographical material about faculty members in the Department contained in the profiles of faculty members, our Annual Reports, or elsewhere on the Department's website (http://www.columbiapsychiatry.org).

The material does not express a point of view or an opinion. Rather, as noted above, it consists only of facts. Psychiatry777 (talk) 15:31, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Klestil[edit]

This edit

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eric_Kandel&action=historysubmit&diff=369893313&oldid=369878680

(→Early years: replacing source that is not accessible by an accessible source, an interview with K in which he, actually, doesn't exactly say the same things)

deleted the following section, and replaced with a less detailed story from Bloomberg:

(When Kandel won the Nobel Prize in 2000, he said it was "...certainly not an Austrian Nobel, it was a Jewish-American Nobel." After that, he got a call from then Austrian president Thomas Klestil asking him, "How can we make things right?" Kandel said that first, Doktor-Karl-Lueger-Ring should be renamed. Karl Lueger was an anti-Semitic mayor of Vienna, cited by Hitler in Mein Kampf. Second, he wanted the Jewish intellectual community to be brought back to Vienna, with scholarships for Jewish students and researchers.[1])

Science is unequivocally a WP:RS, and you can find it in any mid-sized library. It's more accessible than his published biography, which is cited in this article. In any case, here's a short excerpt from the interview with Kandel from a longer feature in Science, so now it's accessible:

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/320/5881/newsmakers.full

Science Magazine > 6 June 2008 > 320 (5881): 1269

THREE Q'S

VIENNA, AUSTRIA—On a visit here last week, Nobelist Eric Kandel attended the debut of In Search of Memory, a film about his life and work, dined with Austrian President Heinz Fischer, and urged officials to rename a boulevard that bears the name of a 19th century mayor known for his anti-Semitic views. Kandel, who fled Nazi-controlled Austria in 1938 at the age of 9, is now a member of the newly built Institute of Science and Technology Austria.

Q: How did Austria lure you back?

Of course, I had distrust of the Viennese. The Catholics here nearly took my life. Unlike Germany, where they've confronted their [anti-Semitic] history very transparently, Austria has never dealt with it. I remember a Viennese woman said to me at the time, in a very typical comment, “You know, they weren't all bad.” So when I won the Nobel, I stuck it to the Austrians by saying that it was certainly not an Austrian Nobel; it was a Jewish-American Nobel. After that, I got a call from the [former] Austrian president [Thomas Klestil], asking me, “How can we make things right?”

Q: What are your goals here?

First, Doktor-Karl-Lueger-Ring should be renamed. Lueger was mayor of Vienna [1897 to 1910] and a notorious anti-Semite. Hitler even cited him in Mein Kampf. The fact that the University of Vienna is on this street is offensive. Second, I would like to see the Jewish intellectual community brought back to Vienna. There need to be scholarships for Jewish students and researchers.

I think the story from Science is a better story, because it expresses Kandel's views on anti-Semitism, it gives the example of the anti-Semitism of Lueger that still offends him, it gives his positive responses, and it gives his ideas about the the Jewish community in Vienna, themes which he elaborated in his book. Unless anybody has any objection, I'm going to replace it with the original story. --Nbauman (talk) 23:28, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

You should add that one but leave the Bloomberg story, IMO.--Insert coins (talk) 08:20, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
I finally added it back, but the Science and Bloomberg story are (1) redundant and (2) contradictory on some points. I would go with Science. --Nbauman (talk) 00:18, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Copyedit & a bit of rework[edit]

I did a top-to-bottom CE and removed the CE-needed template. Didn't exhaustively research Wikipedia style for how to do particular things (like Selected Publications), so please forgive any lapses, but it should be pretty reasonable overall. Substantive changes:

  • Removed Category:Austrian Orthodox Jews and Category:American Orthodox Jews. I have not researched the matter deeply, but I don't see a kipah (yarmulke) in any of his photos, which is prima facie evidence that he doesn’t follow core Orthodox practices.
  • Changed link to point to "learning" instead of "Learning theory (education)|learning" -- the latter is not what is meant by "learning and memory" in this context.
  • Deleted Kavli Prize committee website from Ext Refs, changed to in-text citation & added a 2nd citation for the 2009-10 yrs.
  • Deleted Amazon link for Principles of Neural Science from the Ext Refs (inapproriate to link to a for-profit ecommerce company, which outweighs the editorial value of any content there); the ISBN in the Further Reading will bring up the Wiki booksource tool.
  • Added info on renaming of street in Vienna.

Still needs work, incl better org & refs... Gould363 (talk) 04:25, 7 March 2014 (UTC)