Talk:Eric Liddell

Edit

Sorry, I didn't notice the notice saying not to edit until after I had edited.

But this is a temporary fix, and if the original turns out to be okay, it can replace my stub, with my blessing. Deb 19:59, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Race day

Liddell was a committed Christian and he refused to race on Sunday, with the consequence that he was forced to withdraw from the Men's 100 metres, his best event.

The race took place on July 7 1924, which I make out to be a Monday - what am I missing? Drutt 19:13, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

It was the heat he refused to run, therefore eliminating him from the final. Per the NBC piece done on him. Blackngold29 19:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Where did you get this information from? All sources I have checked unanimously state the race was held on a Sunday:

http://new.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=12909 http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/sportscotland/asportingnation/article/0019/print.shtml http://www.calebresources.org/PDF_files/narrativesample.pdf

Je1985 (talk) 14:58, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

No, the previous poster is correct. The contest was held over two days, with the first round on a Sunday and the final race on a Monday. See Athletics at the 1924 Summer Olympics – Men's 100 metres. Drutt (talk) 15:57, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

A heat is a qualification for the race, the Heat was held on a Sunday and he refused to run because of his beliefs. Since he didn't run the qualification, he could't run the race. StevenDP 9:43, 3 March 2011 (PST)

Eric Liddell - grave site

There seems to be some confusion about the site of Eric Liddell's grave. The graveyard where we buried him in the former Weihsien concentration camp is now covered by a block of shops. The memorial stone is now at the front of the hospital where he died.

There is a reference to his being interred/re-interred in the 'Mausoleum of the Martyrs' in Shijiazhuang in neighbouring Hebei Province. What is the original source of this information? This would be a Chinese memorial place. Who would have motivated this in those years of civil war?

The missionaries went back to China or stayed there after the war from 1945 to about 1951, so there was an opportunity for a re-interment. I was asked years ago whether he had been re-interred in Tianjin, but I had heard nothing of it. If that were the case, it would either be in the LMS graveyard, if they had one attached to their hospital or headquarters, or in the foreigners' cemetary. Hi people Does anybody know?? EM Horne (talk) 13:49, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Chinese language

Does anyone have a source saying specifically whether Liddell spoke Chinese? I would assume that he did, given he lived there so long, but who knows—there have always been English bubbles there for mercenaries and expats, so I shouldn't assume too much. Anyway, I was just wondering because I was thinking of adding him to the silly list Chinese as a second language#Notable non-native speakers of Chinese. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 15:53, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

He did speak Chinese according to his biography by Sally Magnusson, but he could also be considered a native seeing as how he spent the first five years of his life in China and he also died in China. Hudson Taylor, on the other hand, may be a good candidate for that list if he's not already on it. Taylor spent most of his life in China. Invmog (talk) 02:25, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

hi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.209.8.147 (talk) 18:51, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Additional Pictures?

The two current pictures are great, however, because this man was an Olympic Gold-Medalist you'd think that there would be more pictures of him available for Wikipedia; I think another photo or two could add a great deal to this article. Invmog (talk) 02:39, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

1924 Olympic 400m was Olympic record not World record

Liddell's time of 47.6 on 11 July 1924 (final 1924 olympics) was an OR (previous record = 47.8, 11 July 1924 (semifinal 1924 olympics), Horatio Fitch), not WR as claimed (WR was 47.4, 27 May 1916). I've added a source and corrected. See http://www.olympic.org/en/content/Sports/All-Sports/Athletics/Track/All-Track-events/400mMen/ 87.114.112.26 (talk) 04:45, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Mel Watman, a respected British athletics journalist, editor and historian summed it up in one of the supplements issued with "Athletics Today" magazine during 1992, giving detailed coverage of past Olympics: "Absurdly, it was ratified as a world record because, reasoned the IAAF, Ted Meredith's 47.4 was made over 440 yards and not 400 metres, ignoring the fact that 440y is actually 2.43m longer!" Absurd as it was, we can only report the official published decision while pointing out the incongruity. --Mabzilla (talk) 22:59, 21 April 2011 (UTC) Just noticed my error: 440y is 2.34m longer than 400m, not 2.43. --Mabzilla (talk) 13:49, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

"The Flying Scotsman"

Now, in the book "Eric Liddell, Something Greater than Gold", it says he got his nickname form an amazing leap he did on a dock in China (pg 98, 99)but here it says a locomotive, which one is it? StevenDP 9:56, 3 March 2011 (PST) — Preceding unsigned comment added by StevenDP (talk • contribs)