Talk:European Civil Service

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Derk Jan Eppink[edit]

I dispute the "facts" based on this person's book. I have not read the book but working on the presentation on Youtube This is at best WP:PRIMARY and cannot be considered WP:RS. Triwbe (talk) 12:54, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

This whole article seems to be a POV attempt to disparage the European Commission staff. No mention is made of The European Parliament, the European Court of Justice or The European Court of Auditors all of which employ people under the same regulations. --Triwbe (talk) 05:12, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Disagree. Eppink is a two-time cabinet secretary. As such he was not a member (i.e not WS:PRIMARY), but definitely in the position to
write about the European Civil Service. In addition, earlier he was a journalist covering Europe for highly valued media
including NRC Handelsblad. That makes Eppink a secondary WP:RS. The linked YouTube video shows Eppink lecturing on a variety of
subjects. This again proves the secondary notion - it's not original research, or his own.
Finally, disputing "the facts" without naming any statement in particular is not constructive criticism.195.64.89.205 (talk) 22:00, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Triwbe, not mentioning the other staff is because I have no data on it. If you have some, please to go ahead and add it. Try to expand it where there is a leaning to one side or the other. Ditto, if you have "positive" information, or a response to DJE's criticism, please add it. But right now we have one good insider source who knows a lot more than we do on the internal working of the Commission. Furthermore, I do not believe DJE himself attempts to disparage EC staff, it is simple a warts and all account of things that go on in so many offices and its rather natural in a way - its not really saying their evil or anything. What we have from him is an insight into the dynamic of the service - yes we need more as it relies a lot on him, but to do that we need more information. So please, if you see it as a big problem, go find some information for us. You've done it on salaries, thanks for that (though I don't think the Maltese service was "unreliable" as such, merely not as good a source).- J Logan t: 23:16, 16 July 2008 (UTC)


THIS IS ONE BIG AD FOR DJE´s BOOK. SURELY YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND OTHER SOURCES? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.240.160.92 (talk) 19:44, 17 June 2013 (UTC)