Talk:European People's Party
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- 1 Election box metadata
- 2 PSL
- 3 Party names in national langauges
- 4 UK Conservative Party????
- 5 Liberal conservatism?
- 6 Merge from EPP Group
- 7 Mistake in Hungarian part
- 8 Political affiliation of European Commissioners
- 9 Andrius Kubilius
- 10 Delegates -- chosen by magic?
- 11 4 Freedoms Party / EPP: European Parliament election 2014 London Region
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I think Polish Peasats' Party should be removed from the list. They have recently withdrown their membership. Or maybe it should be just mentioned that they withdrew. Jasra 21:09, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
- My sense was that most of their MEPs bailed, but that the party itself remains aligned. They're still listed on the EPP website  The Tom 21:37, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Party names in national langauges
We should decide whether party names should be given in native language (with an English translations in parentheses) as we do right now for most parties, or only in English. Either way seems fine to me but we should consistent.
- I'd be in favour of including native language names. —Nightstallion (?) 13:01, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
UK Conservative Party????
I thought the UK Conservative Party was a member of the EPP. Can't see them on this list, but don't wish to add them myself; maybe someone can check this out; thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 23:24, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- This is a complicated matter because the terminology used and understood nature of the organisations involved varies.
- The "European People's Party" can refer to either the European wide federation of parties (which the UK Conservatives - now including the Ulster Unionists - and also the Czech Civic Democratic Party, are not members of), or to the grouping in the European Parliament, which since 1999 has been officially called the "European People's Party–European Democrats" and billed as a coalition of the EPP and the European Democrats. Although it's not unknown for parties to sit in a European Parliament group without being members of the relevant wider federation, the Conservatives officially sit in the European Democrats side of this, along with the Civic Democrats, the Italian Pensioners' Party and the Portugese Social Democratic Centre – People's Party.
- However the European Democrats isn't really much of a grouping at all and the name was only resurrected in 1999 as a way of providing a fig leaf for the Conservative leadership and MEPs when facing internal criticism of sitting in the EPP, which is officially in favour of greater European integration. This has not worked with calls to leave having been made ever since by activists and MEPs. Virtually everyone discussing the Conservatives' options in the European Parliament (on whatever side of the debate) just uses the phrase "European People's Party" to describe this group (bar those trying to use the existence of the EDs as a get-out-of-this-mess card). Timrollpickering (talk) 00:24, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
In what meaning is liberal conservatism listed here? As Conservative on moral and social issues, or as more libertarian, promoting individual liberty with economic freedom? Thanks --Novis-M (talk) 01:24, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Liberal-conservatism in Europe is the same as American conservatism. It refers to free market conservatism or more precise, classic liberalism with regard to national traditions.
Merge from EPP Group
How is the European People's Party different from the EPP Group? The EPP Group article says that EPP is a younger "transnational political party founded in 1976 which all group members are now affiliated to", but I could not find more detail.--ilgiz (talk) 07:11, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- You've got history as well though, mentioning the discontinuity of membership only last month, and countries in the EPP but not the group as they're not elected. Best to keep separate, as all other groups are. So long as they are interlinked and clear, then it would be less confusing this way rather than reference between them in the same article.- J.Logan`t: 08:55, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
The difference is exactly what the name of the group states: it is the "Group of the European People's Party", similarly to parliamentary groups of parties in Member States or other countries. Just as MPs are elected on the list of their party and then they form their parliamentary groups, the MEPs elected on the lists of parties that are members of the EPP (the europarty) then form the EPP Group is the European parliament. Also, the leader of the EPP Group is an ex officio member of the EPP (europarty) Presidency. Furthermore, according to the EU regulation on europarties, the europarties are the ones that have the right to campaign for the European elections, not their political groups. Finally, the EPP (the europarty) similarly to national parties, has a broader political role since it deals with all the EU institutions (not just parliament) and also has member-parties with associate or observer status in countries outside the EU. Thus, the correct thing to do is to merge the EPP Group as a subsection of the EPP since it is the only group in parliament that fully corresponds to its respective europarty (not the case with Socialists, Liberals, Greens, etc.) but also proper interlinking between the two articles is also ok, though not ideal.Europarliament (talk) 20:51, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Mistake in Hungarian part
The EPP (party, not group) website lists two Hungarian parties as members, this wikipedia article has three. What gives? http://www.epp.eu/memberparties.php?hoofdmenuID=3 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 18:13, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Political affiliation of European Commissioners
I'm a bit perplexed to see European Commissioners spoken of like they belong to the EPP. The fact that a number of the Commissioners designate are described as "EPP Commissioners" is particularly jarring. I propose that they be described as being from parties affiliated to the EPP.
Delegates -- chosen by magic?
How are delegates to the Congress--supposedly the "highest decision-making body"--chosen? This seems a rather important detail. Given that the Europarl will choose the next Commission president, and the EPP is the largest party in the Europarl, understanding the EPP Congress is rather important to understanding the EU. Without knowing who chooses the Congressional delegates (and how), we really don't know an awful lot about the EPP, IMHO--its just another black box. I realize that we have the same problem with EPP's constituent parties--that little is known about how they actually work--but we must start somewhere. For a hint at what I'm looking for, see my work on the California Democratic Party#Governance, the largest constituent party of what is known as the US Democratic Party (the national Democratic Party apparatus has a rather informal role in US politics FYI--although no one really knew that until Wikipedia came along.) The main thing that should be taken from the California Democratic Party article is that this process of selecting party officials can be quite complicated, and rather important. Int21h (talk) 10:50, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- OK. The EPP its a Belgian non-profit that operates under by-laws adopted in that country, with the legal version in French. "The composition and the functioning of the Congress are regulated in the Internal Regulations." One of the references explains those internal regulations. The EPP will choose its candidate for Commission President at its next Congress. Int21h (talk) 21:07, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
4 Freedoms Party / EPP: European Parliament election 2014 London Region
The "4 Freedoms Party - UK EPP" is fielding a list of candidates in the May 2014 EP election. Their website makes reference to the non-allicance of the Conservatives with the EPP leading to this breakaway group advertising as the official EPP representative for the UK
This probably should be folded into the main article