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[edit] Military Relations

I have had many Spanish Class projects on Eva Peron, some of which included her relations with the Argentine Military... Yet there was not much information about this. I would like to see more information in this area become a part of this article, as it would be very helpful to students in the future if they could find this information here instead of scouring the depths of the internet and finding info after a search that takes way too long... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.95.13 (talk) 01:19, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright infringement

In "Final resting place" subsection there is a blatant case of copyright infringement in part of the text: "Juan and his third wife, Isabel, decided to keep the corpse on their dining room table. Isabel would comb Evita's hair every day, and, under pressure from Juan, lay down next to her dead body to absorb her charisma". The exact same sentence can be seen in the source provided: [1]

I haven't seen the remaining sources to see if there is also a copyright infringement but the editors who usually edit this article should take a careful look in the entire article. Since this is considered a "good article" (how did it pass is unknown to me and to any reasonable person but to God) it should be fixed as fast as possible. I want to avoid adding a coypright infringement tag so that is why I came into the talk page to warn about it. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 19:18, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

In case you didn't know, good and even featured articles are as vulnerable to vandalism as any other article. This sentence was included recently, and it wasn't part of the article when it was nominated and promoted. MBelgrano (talk) 00:28, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
Ow, what a surprise. You.
Well, my surprise for seeing this article as a good one is caused by the fact that there are several sentences without sources and photographs that are not in public domain in the United States (although they are in Argentina, they couldn't be in this article). --Lecen (talk) 01:10, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Ambiguous sentence

I was going to rewrite this sentence, but I don't even know what it means.

"Therefore, a visit to Franco, with Salazar the last remaining west European authoritarian leader in power, would be diplomatically frowned upon internationally."

First of all, Salazar isn't mentioned before or linked to, so it's not clear who that even is. Secondly, was Salazar the last one in power, or Franco, or both? It seems like Salazar was from the sentence, but if so, what does that have to do with anything? It needs more clarification, so I was just wondering if anyone knew what exactly the sentence is trying to say. easytoplease (talk) 21:17, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

The section is mangled. There are several other similar garbled or mistaken items in this article. Salazar was the Fascist leader of Portugal from the late '30s until the late '60s. At the time of Peron's European tour, both Franco (Spain) and Salazar (Portugal) were in power in their respective countries. I presume the passage above you cite intended to state that Peron visited (or planned to) both fascist Iberian countries.24.250.115.92 (talk) 02:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)Vainamoinen

I'll add that this article is very one-sided in its discussion and assessment of Eva Peron's Fascist leanings. There is a strong desire on the part of many Peron supporters/admirers to downplay the Fascistic elements of Peron's rule, and many historians share this view, especially in Argentina. However, many others take a less sanguine view toward the Peron era and Eva Peron. While there is little doubt that the Perons were not anti-Semitic or racial nationalists, their economic and social program was definitely corporatist, and Eva Peron's syndicalist activity is a prime example of this. Corparatist, clerical, and charasmatic, the Peron's political philosophy shared much with National Socialism and the authoritarian Falange. This article should balance the Peron apologia view with at least some mention that a very different view is held by many historians.24.250.115.92 (talk) 02:17, 2 July 2011 (UTC)Vainamoinen

This article is written for the English speaking world, obviously. In the English speaking world, "fascism" largely means only one thing: "anti-semitic," and there are many people in the US and UK who believe Evita was exactly that. This is most likely why the article focuses on stating that she was not strictly speaking fascist and certainly not anti-semitic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.190.5.83 (talk) 12:41, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

No fascism doesn't only mean anti-Semitism in the Anglo-Phone world, as a clear reading of the fascist article would tell you. Fascism has not got anti-Semitic policies at the core. In Italian, until NAZI meddling, a great deal of Jews supported the fascist party and some were in the party. Likewise Franco is a fascist (despite his apologists who keep invaded his article) but he saved many Jews and has many streets disgracefully named after him in Israel. Fascism and anti-Semitism are not interchangeable. Peronism is an offshoot of fascism, just as Trotskyism is an offshoot of communism - The Mummy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.239.56 (talk) 11:49, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Spiritual Leader of the Nation

If Eva Peron was indeed created "Spiritual Leader of the Nation" by the Argentine Congress, it stands to reason that this should be included in her list of positions in the infobox. Even if she was the only holder. The position itself even has its own page. Mburn16 (talk) 03:39, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

It was not a "position" (least a position thought of as to be held by successive individuals), but an honorary title adscribed personally to her. Salut, --IANVS (talk) 09:17, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

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[edit] Mistress

Why is Eva, prior to her marriage to Peron, referred to as his "mistress" ? At that time he was a widower and she was unmarried. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.230.181 (talk) 00:14, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

I suppose because she wasn't socially acceptable and he kept her in private, secret, for some time due to the stigma of being a former actress. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.91.49.34 (talk) 10:19, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
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