Talk:Executive magistrates of the Roman Republic
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Creation of this page
I have put this page together as part of my series on the Constitution of the Roman Republic. I put all of this information here, rather than on the individual pages of the individual magistrates (such as roman consul or tribune) because my focus is on the civil offices of the republic (not, say, the imperial consul or the military tribune). By putting everything here, I can focus on how the offices functioned and interacted with each other, as well as with the Roman Senate and Roman assemblies, under the constitutional system of checks and balances. I can also show the traits shared by all magistrates (such as provincia, omens or the cursus honorum), as well as leave out excessive information that the average reader may not be interested in (such as the census statistics). RomanHistorian (talk) 06:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Update on the Roman constitution series
I just wanted to mention my plans for my series on the Roman constitution. There was simply too much information to put on my original page, Constitution of the Roman Republic. There is also a significant amount of information available on the constitutions of the Roman kingdom and empire. Therefore, I am going to give this series somewhat of a matrix structure. Roman Constitution will be the main page of the series. Underneath this page will be Constitution of the Roman Kingdom, Constitution of the Roman Republic and Constitution of the Roman Empire. It surprised me, but apparently there actually was a constitution during the time of the kingdom and then again during the time of the empire.
Underneath the constitution pages, I will have pages on the Senate of the Roman Kingdom, Senate of the Roman Republic, Senate of the Roman Empire, Legislative Assemblies of the Roman Kingdom, Legislative Assemblies of the Roman Republic, Legislative Assemblies of the Roman Empire, Executive Magistrates of the Roman Kingdom, Executive Magistrates of the Roman Republic, and Executive Magistrates of the Roman Empire.
When this is done, I will create a new page called Roman Executive Magistrates, and then populate this page, along with Roman senate and Roman assemblies. All three pages will be condensed versions of their respective sub-pages. Right now, Roman senate and Roman assemblies consist almost exclusively of facts about the republic. Neither page has many citations. They also use a discussion format, and my revisions to these pages will use more of a discussion and analysis format. I am going to be more cautious with my revisions of these pages, because I assume that people will want to restore the original versions for whatever reason.
My hope is to use a discussion and analysis format for the entire series. My overall goal will be to produce a series that doesn't just discuss the facts associated with these offices and institutions. I want the series to tie everything together, and illustrate how everything operated under the overall constitutional system. Right now, the entries on these individual topics (such as roman consul and praetor) simply list facts without providing any deeper analysis or context. It is difficult to truly understand these topics unless you know how they all worked together under the constitutional system.
Also, I am not surprised that there hasn't been more work done on Wikipedia on this topic. It seems as though there are very few books on this subject, and many of those books are quite old. This is unfortunate because this subject is actually quite relevant to modern politics. Many modern governments are designed around a similar constitutional superstructure as was the Roman government. RomanHistorian (talk) 07:22, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Relevance of surrender of Vercingetorix?
Why does the image illustrating the section on Extraordinary Magistrates depict Vercingetorix surrendering to Caesar? Puzzling. The section discusses the dictator and magister equitum; Caesar was not dictator during his war in Gaul, so his activities there would not illustrate the role of a Roman dictator. I'm missing the connection. Cynwolfe (talk) 05:59, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
I object to the move and its rationale. There is not a sole "executive magistrate", as the title now implies, that constitutes a single "job title". This is a set of magistracies that have several different job titles, and the article falls under the provision that plural titles are used for articles that cover Articles on groups or classes of specific things (see WP:PLURAL#Exceptions); specifically, Articles that actually distinguish among multiple distinct instances of related items. See similar move discussion at Talk:Roman roads#Requested move. Cynwolfe (talk) 14:43, 3 September 2012 (UTC)