Talk:Exploitation of women in mass media

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New article[edit]

There did not seem to be any article explicitly on this topic. I pulled together material from the relevant articles to try to address this in a coherent matter, as distinct from objectification in general. It could use some more work tying the different elements together and some more details on different aspects. Some of these topics have no relevant articles that I could find (for example criticisms of exploitation in film or television). Obotlig interrogate 18:39, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

This needs to be renamed "Exploitation of young attractive women in mass media"[edit]

Then a survey should be commenced asking if the aforementioned young attractive women feel exploited for being paid to exist as opposed to being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leaping out of bed, dressing, force-feeding, shitting, pissing, brushing teeth and hair, and fighting traffic to get to a place where essentially you make lots of money for somebody else and are asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.67.101 (talk) 09:44, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

This is a valid point of view (in fact some of the absurdity of this occurred to me when pulling the article together), however I was working from the complaints levied against the portrayals and selections of women and did try to include what cited counter-arguments I could find. This article is as much about the effect of the exploitation on other women as on the women portrayed, but could well include negative consequences to the actors and models etc. It does mention negative consequences to women who are similar to those who are disproportionately represented in the media. At any rate, "exploiting" just means making use or taking advantage (in either sense) of. Obotlig interrogate 14:39, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
To further answer your question without getting into a discussion of this topic, there is a range of thinking about this. That since certain classes of women are paid simply for existing, and are praised simply for existing, this may have a negative impact on them personally, or on how similar women are viewed by society (for better or worse), and how women of different types than those portrayed in the media are affected (for better or worse). All of these concepts are relevant to "exploitation of women" - in other words making use of the qualities of women for leverage or advantage in the field in question, the mass media. Obotlig interrogate 15:16, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

change in tone[edit]

There seems to be an overall tone of this article that this exploitation of women is not a bad thing. Also, the article implies that only feminists recognize and advocate against this exploitation. In the pornography section, the article says that "some feminists view mass media in general to be objectifying". It is hard to believe that only self-described 'feminists' recognize pornography as objectifying. Perhaps only 'feminists' publicly oppose the objectification, but most people recognize that much of pornography is objectifying towards women. Changes in the article should be made so that readers understand that exploitation of women in mass media is a serious issue that many people believe in.

Hw10239 (talk) 04:39, 29 April 2013 (UTC) some feminists see pornography as objectifying