Talk:Félix Guattari/Archive 1

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pronounciation

can somebody add a definitive pronunciation to this? thanks SPC Knappenberger, E.M. 05:37, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Ecosophy

There is almost nothing about his ecosophy, and the ecosophy article also says little. Is there at least a good reference or link? --Singkong2005 01:43, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

His ecosophy is, AFAIK, mostly contained within his 1989 "les Trois Ecologies" (in english as "The Three Ecologies", Athlone Press, 2000). I'm not sure he should be credited as an originator of ecosophy given that the term was coined by Arne Naess and that Guattari bases his ecosophy on Gregory Bateson's work (amongst other influences) which is radically different from the Deep Ecology perspective of Naess. Helvetius 01:51, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Gobbledegook

This article is just about as bad as some of the writings of the man himself. "It may be said that his writings were at all times correspondent in one fashion or another with sociopolitical and cultural engagements." This conveys absolutely nothing to me, unless it is something like "his writings reflect the times". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Skookumpete (talkcontribs) 13:24, September 5, 2006 (UTC)


Who the heck is Brian Massumi?

This influence, i belive, must be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.16.181.66 (talk) 21:41, 14 February 2008 (UTC)



Brian Massumi was the first English translator of Anti-Oepidus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.191.157.184 (talk) 22:51, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

More Gobbledegook

You thought that was gobbledegook, try this from the man himself... "We can clearly see that there is no bi-univocal correspondence between linear signifying links or archi-writing, depending on the author, and this multireferential, multi-dimensional machinic catalysis. The symmetry of scale, the transversality, the pathic non-discursive character of their expansion: all these dimensions remove us from the logic of the excluded middle and reinforce us in our dismissal of the ontological binarism we criticised previously."

THAT'S WHAT I CALL GOBBLEDEGOOK

For more of the same see Alan Sokal and Jean Bricmont's book "Intellectual Impostures", I highly recomend it.

comment was added by User:STM 22:53, October 14, 2006 (GMT)

As STM makes clear, people should approach this article with caution as it gives no heed to the considerable criticisms leveled at Mr. Guattari by scientists and others. --Edwin Herdman (talk) 07:34, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
If you refer to criticisms from people who have actually read and engaged Guattari's work (unlike Sokal and Bricmont, for example), please cite them from reliable sources so we can put them in the article. csloat (talk) 15:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
In what sense do you consider the book "Intellectual Impostures" to not be a reliable source? Claiming that they haven't "actually" read Guattari's work is a completely unsupported assertion. Perhaps you haven't "actually" read "Intellectual Impostures"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.179.151.39 (talk) 22:18, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Put simply, Sokal and his associates have absolutely no idea what is at stake in the Guattari's work. The fact that it is difficult does not explain the singularly malicious attacks upon his work, quite reminiscent in many ways to those of certain critics of Nietzsche and Foucault.

Moreover, Sokal's critiques rarely reached any really significant degree of controversy, compared to the overwhelmingly positive philosophical and political responses to Guattari's efforts. 67.191.157.184 (talk) 22:59, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Category French Anarchist

Was Guattari committed with some openly anarchist movement? Did he describe himself as an anarchist? So why do we categorize him as an "anarchist"? 82.51.31.104 (talk) 22:48, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't know about this either and think he should probably be recategorized. (There was a lot of early -- and rather malevolent -- criticism of D+G along these lines, however.) 67.191.157.184 (talk) 22:59, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Guattari was involved with the March 22nd Movement (anarchist) during the events of 1968. By the way, the article doesn't mention that he was a member of French Communist Party until 1956 or 1958. 12/02/2009

agree with the category, there is ample evidence. --Buridan (talk) 01:43, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Clean-up

I've cleaned up some of the bio, removing some weasels and unsourced claims. I've cleaned up the Works section, removing information on dates and translators that may be found in the Sources section following the references section. The references and sources are in MLA author-date system. I've also removed the few "select secondary sources" - since none are cited yet in the article as it stands.

  • Abou-Rihan, Fadi. , Deleuze and Guattari: A Psychoanalytic Itinerary. (Continuum, 2008).
  • Éric Alliez, La Signature du monde, ou Qu'est-ce que la philosophie de Deleuze et Guattari (1993). Trans. The Signature of the World: Or, What is Deleuze and Guattari's Philosophy? (2005).
  • François Dosse, Gilles Deleuze et Félix Guattari. Biographie croisée (La Découverte, 2007). Trans. Gilles Deleuze and Félix Guattari: Intersecting Lives (Columbia University Press, 2010).
  • Gary Genosko, Félix Guattari: An Aberrant Introduction (2002).
  • Gary Genosko (ed.), Deleuze and Guattari: Critical Assessments of Leading Philosophers. Volume 2: Guattari (2001). ISBN 0415186781.

DionysosProteus (talk) 23:04, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Most-browsed Deleuze and Guattari articles

I wanted to find out which of the D&G articles garners the most traffic on this site. I thought this might be of interest to other editors interested in the D&G articles. All stats for June 2010:

Also related are:

But neither article has any substantial treatment of D&G

DionysosProteus (talk) 14:20, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Untitled

Shouldn't there be a picture of him somewhere? Surely there's one in the public domain that we could use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.100.197.179 (talk) 06:07, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Micropolitique

Guattari used a number of terms; it isn't clear that any one of them is notable outside of discussing his uses of the terms, and the short description at Micropolitique could be moved here to the Guattari article. Largoplazo (talk) 04:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

I just took care of it. Largoplazo (talk) 10:50, 9 August 2019 (UTC)