Talk:FIFA World Cup qualification
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- 1 Untitled
- 2 Africa
- 3 There is no year in the article title
- 4 This is wrong
- 5 Mauritania
- 6 Qualification Formats
- 7 Points
- 8 Antique Flags
- 9 National teams results in World Cup preliminary competition 1934-2010
- 10 First appearance in qualification by team
- 11 Controversy
- 12 Tuvalu
- 13 Article needs more details for unknowledgeable readers seeking info on a World Cup qualification game
- 14 Topscorers in preliminary competition 1934–2010
- 15 Bahamas first appearance
Is this what everyone was looking for when it was originally proposed on the talk page of Football World Cup? If not, I understand, I was only trying to help. I don't even know if I should have attempted to start this article so late at night (2 AM). If you have any questions, just ask. Ian Manka Questions? Talk to me! 08:25, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Let's not duplicate information from articles like Football World Cup 1934 (qualification) here. I intended for this article to contain:
- A description of the current qualification process (mostly format; fixtures, results, etc can already be found elsewhere).
- An overview of the past systems, much less comprehensive than it's now.
- Links to pages about specific qualification tournaments.
Conscious 09:10, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
"The participants of the previous World Cup Finals and a few nations highest in the FIFA World Rankings are given byes to the First Round." - shouldn't that read Second Round...? ChrisTheDude 07:38, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- Corrected. Conscious 09:05, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
There is no year in the article title
Some parts of this article seem to be written as if this was the article 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification. It isn't! The article should be a general summary of all qualification methods/procedures over the years. -- Chuq (talk) 11:26, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
This is wrong
Where teams are still not able to be separated, the following tie-breakers are used (in order): 4. greater number of points obtained in matches between the tied teams 5. goal difference in matches between the tied teams 6. greater number of goals scored in matches between the tied teams
Now, if the goal difference between the teams is the same (rule 5), then the number of goals is the same (rule 6). Is it the number of away goals in matches between the teams? Anyone know? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 00:46, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- No it's not. Away goals are only used for ties that are set up over two legs - although it would be interesting to see what FIFA would decide if (say) two teams withdrew from a four team group - whether away goals would then apply (because the group would effectively be a two-legged play off) or not (because it was still a group, albeit of only two teams). Despite this, I had tended to use this criteria as an "unofficial" tool for ordering the teams in tables I am updating, if only because it tends to favour teams with more home games left (and hence are probably better placed to end up in a higher spot), but there's no necessity for that. Jlsa (talk) 01:57, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
I think that there should be a table showing the qualification formats each confederation uses. One column should be used for each confederation, and one row should be used for each round. Some cells would be empty because some confederations have more rounds than others. Each cell should express the format used for that confederation in that round.Mapperson (talk) 16:05, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
The points system used here isn't really correct per se. It would be correct if each win yielded 3 points however there was a period when wins only yielded 2 points and therefore invalids the current calculation used. Perhaps it would be prudent to remove said parameter? Transaction Go (talk) 08:04, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
- It is questionable whether ANY of the new stuff is relevant given the initial rationale for this page (see top of this talk page). Jlsa (talk) 08:12, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Whoever decided it was a good idea to use flags appropriate to the year in question is a total retard. Flags should be updated to the current version for clarity —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 20:49, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
National teams results in World Cup preliminary competition 1934-2010
What do the colours of the table mean? Grey is presumably nothing special. Gold is perhaps "have won a tournament", No idea for green. A key would be a good idea. -- SGBailey (talk) 17:32, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
- I *think* green = past qualifiers, and yes a key is definitely necessary.
- The "First appearance in qualification by team" table makes no sense whatsoever. What is the "total" column (it sometimes is total the number of teams from all confederations in the other cells, at other times it seems to be a random number)? Why do teams keep reappearing in the table? How can they have their first appearance multiple times (e.g. Brazil and Turkey in both 1930 and 1954)? Why are some nations in italics?
- 184.108.40.206 (talk) 22:31, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
First appearance in qualification by team
Hi, just wanted to point out an error:
In the table "First appearance in qualification by team", Australia are listed as making their World Cup debut in 1966. Australia actually made their World Cup debut in 1974 in Germany.
- This is "first appearance in the qualification" - not "first appearance in the finals". Australia tried and failed to qualify for 1966 and 1970. Jlsa (talk) 05:11, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
There was some controversy in 2010 after FIFA changed the rules to seed the play-off spots. They (allegedly) did this to give the big teams who were unexpectedly forced to play-off a better chance of qualifying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 13:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
- If you mean the UEFA play-offs they didn't change anything - the rules were exactly the same as applied in 2006. Some people did complain the rules weren't made clear enough (for them at least). Jlsa (talk) 01:34, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
I think the explanation about the 2007 qualification procedure for OFC (note #15) is unnecessary. Tuvalu wasn't a member of FIFA at the time of qualification to 2010, just as New Caledonia wasn't at the time of qualification to 2006, so we should use the note #14 for Tuvalu. Otherwise, we should explain what New Caledonia is doing on the table too. --18.104.22.168 (talk) 01:07, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
- It is a bit different (and will occur against this time) because Tuvalu really entered a different competition (SPGs) that just happened to double as WCQs - in a sense they weren't trying to enter the WCQs at all. New Caledonia, on the other hand, did enter the WCQs (knowing they would become a FIFA member - they just happened to be eliminated a couple of days before the vote that made it official) Jlsa (talk) 01:32, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Article needs more details for unknowledgeable readers seeking info on a World Cup qualification game
This doesn't tell me anything about what happens for a qualification game. It does not link to any Wiki articles explaining if there is any difference between a World Cup qualification game versus a World Cup championship game or even a non-World Cup soccer game (like compared to the rules of the Major League Soccer series). I could not find this information in the article:
- - How many minutes are in a World Cup qualification game?
- - Is there a difference between how many minutes there are in a World Cup game and a professional league game?
- - How many players are allowed on the field?
- - How big is a World Cup soccer field?
- - How many rounds are in a qualification game?
We can certainly give that it actually takes 90 minutes per game but all the rest of the questions are actually general knowledge, the rounds of a game actually varies for what Continent you are actually from. User:Alexandrhnh2 (talk) 4:58, 4 June 2013 (WST)
Topscorers in preliminary competition 1934–2010
Yes I agree they should put him on it but it was actually they decided not to put him on, please tell me why? Because it was a world record for scoring 13 goals in a match. And he actually scored 28 goals not 18 please see </http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_Thompson> if you visit it the information is actually wrong. User:Alexandrhnh2 (talk) 17:02, 4 June 2013 (WST)
Bahamas first appearance
Why is Bahamas listed twice in the "first appearance" list? The first listing shows the name italicized, but I don't see any discussion of the reason for two listings.LUxlii (talk) 17:41, 18 October 2013 (UTC)