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Fictional??[edit]

Balzac seems to think he was real:

Falstaff is, in England, a type of the ridiculous; his very name provokes laughter; he is the king of clowns. Now, instead of being enormously pot-bellied, absurdly amorous, vain, drunken, old, and corrupted, Falstaff was one of the most distinguished men of his time, a Knight of the Garter, holding a high command in the army. At the accession of Henry V. Sir John Falstaff was only thirty-four years old. This general, who distinguished himself at the battle of Agincourt, and there took prisoner the Duc d'Alencon, captured, in 1420, the town of Montereau, which was vigorously defended. Moreover, under Henry VI. he defeated ten thousand French troops with fifteen hundred weary and famished men.[1]

The Real Falstaff is a book by Michael Jones about the real John Falstaff

The book is a life and times of the man behind the Shakespearean character, the professional soldier Sir John Fastolf. Fastolf is the best-documented soldier of the late medieval period and the author draws upon a quite exceptional personal archive. As a result, Sir John emerges in a very different light from his Shakespearean counterpart.


so much for wikipedia...

Reply: Shakespeare's Falstaff isn't based on Fastolf; WS merely borrowed the man's name, swapped some letters and completely changed his character. So it's a bit odd to call Fastolf 'the real Falstaff'. Jones's book is, incidentally, a novel, not a biography. The Singing Badger 19:51, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Technical Character[edit]

"Also appears in Titus Andronicus as a technical character." - What does "technical character" mean in this context? I find no mention of Falstaff in a quick search of the text of T.A. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.0.235.135 (talkcontribs)

  • You're right, it's nonsense. I've removed it. I can't be bothered to go through the history but my guess is maybe someone vandalised a reference to Fastolfe in Henry SIXTH part 1. AndyJones 14:11, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism[edit]

"But the one play he has the main part in is Murder on the Highway, a play containing various charactors from various Shakaspeare plays." A grade school student getting back at Wikipedia? Removed. Eivanec 14:47, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Could be. Certainly isn't appropriate. I've reverted back a little further than you did. AndyJones 15:47, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Boars Head Tavern[edit]

No mention here of Falstaff's notorious drinking place: The Boars Head Tavern in Eastcheap. Colin4C 09:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Shakespeare's second largest character after Hamlet?[edit]

It says in the article that Falstaff has the second most amount of lines after Hamlet, but I don't think this is true: with the lines he has in Henry V combined with those he has in 1HIV and 2HIV, surely Prince Hal has more? I don't have an edition where I can check this is the case, but I'm almost 100% sure... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.216.224 (talk) 02:30, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Characters In More Than One Play[edit]

It doesn't make sense to count appearances in more than one play towards size of part! You are not comparing like with like. It will also be difficult to compare Falstaff's lines with Hamlet's, as one speaks mainly in prose and the other mainly in verse. Counting prose lines will vary much more between editions. Re the article, surely there is no question that the Hostess in "Henry V" is Mistress Quickly? I don't see why there should be. Her husband calls her "the quondam (former) Quickly" in Act 2, Scene 1.

82.10.145.63 (talk) 16:23, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Simon Russell Beale at the Globe?[edit]

I am not aware - and am sure I would be - that SRB has played Falstaff at Shakespeare's Globe. Only filmed the part for TV. The Globe Falstaffs I am aware of are Christopher Benjamin and Roger Allam. Could be checked with the theatre.

Rogersansom (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:30, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Composite (of Models for Falstaff) section--Removed[edit]

This section violated Wikipedia:NOR, as it synthesized a conclusion based on many sources, but not a part of ANY of the sources. Tapered (talk) 08:00, 19 August 2014 (UTC)