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Portman-no![edit]

Removed ", who originally coined the term as a portmanteau of "fan" and "(king)dom"; the word "fan" itself originated as shorthand for "fanatic".". Seems to come from sport fandom. Will look for sources later. -- Jeandré (a Buffista who hasn't seen Buffy), 2004-09-14t21:57z

Good rewrite, 69.208 (if I may call you that for short). Rick Norwood 18:07, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

plural of what?[edit]

"The plural fen is often self-applied in science fiction and related fandoms." 'fen' is the plural of _what_ word? This sentence is confusing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.184.231 (talk) 17:18, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

fandom.com[edit]

Should there be a mention about the legal threats, circa 2000, surrounding the fandom.com website and its purported trademarking of the term?[1] Wl219 09:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

RFD Category:Worldcon Guests of Honor[edit]

Just wanted folks to be aware that the Category for Worldcon Guests of Honor has been tagged with a request for deletion. If you have an opinion pro or con, please weigh in. --JohnPomeranz 23:25, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Fanwank 2nd AfD[edit]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fanwank (2nd nomination). Likely of interest (pro or con) to editors here. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 00:19, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Bad Article[edit]

This article does a horrible job of explaining what a fandom is, and seems to focus on the science fiction fandoms only but not on other ones. I suggest adding more and rewriting. Would do it myself, but I don't have the time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.183.182.214 (talk) 06:41, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

The reason is, anything related to fandom is usually very poorly researched by experts and the most reliable sources come from personal essays and examples from it. --Artman40 (talk) 21:37, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
This is true of most minority cultures: GBLT, African-American, etc. Unfortunately, personal essays and reminiscences are not reliable sources as we define them here. Science fiction fandom in the classical sense at least has an enormous paper trail, archived in the various fanzine collections such as those in Iowa City and at Eaton; less literate fandoms don't have that advantage. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:07, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Just a Question[edit]

Can you have shifts in what your fandom is? (Or is it possible to have a pattern of obsession [<-- mispelled I think] and then you find a new thing that you obsess with?) This happens with me in games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.77.225.246 (talk) 12:43, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Notable fandoms[edit]

Why are Twihards not on this list? Their probably the largest fandom currently!!!! I think I'll add them..

Also, do you think Narniacs make the list? The Chronicles of Narnia, being a book and film series, have a very large following... Nothing like Twilight of course, but I think it's close to Doctor Who... --TaylorLanebore me 17:48, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

No, the list only includes fandoms notable enough to have their own substantiated articles. So far, neither of the categories you describe exists as a meaningful fandom (conventions, fanzines, etc.). --Orange Mike | Talk 23:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)


Please add "Little Monsters (fans of Lady Gaga)" to the list of notable fandoms, to correspond with mention of fandoms surrounding celebrity personalities earlier in the article. If needed, I can provide documentation of the fandom through links to fan sites, documentation of conventions/gatherings at concerts, etc. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babbobdg (talkcontribs)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -Nathan Johnson (talk) 22:54, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Organized subculture Addition[edit]

I request that the latest addition to the Organized subculture be removed because it is not properly sourced. The the reference to the Sherlock Holmes bit does not actually reference any sort of organized fandom and the railway enthusiast statement is not sourced at all. Aside from those actual technical issue I personally wish that my work be removed from this article. If those watching over it feel a need to play mother hen then it is not a page where I want to be involved with. If you feel the information belongs then by all means re-write it in a way that fits the context of the existing article. That I am even being forced to make this request on the talk page is demeaning and an example of why Wikipedia is trouble finding new editors.Sturmovik (talk) 16:22, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

"Work submitted to Wikipedia can be edited, used and redistributed by other people at will." That's an irrevocable license. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:14, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Relationship with industry[edit]

This bit here needs to be rewritten to include more realistic relationships. Fan activism is pretty big and has demonstrated its power to influence producers, but, for many years, fans were perceived as little more than annoyances. I think something should be added to reflect that, and give a more nuanced overview of fan-industry relations. I'll develop something over the next week or so and add it then; if you have any suggestions, do let me know! Juniper4589 (talk) 09:53, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Merge with Fan[edit]

I don't agree this should be merged, a Fan is a person who enjoys something to a point, a fandom is almost a obsession to near religion. I don't think for that reason alone it should stay two separate entries. Loper324 (talk) 01:17, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't think that's entirely fair. However: one can be a fan of something in splendid isolation; but a fandom exists in some sense as a collective entity, with some level of interaction among the members thereof. It need not be as extensive and as old as science fiction fandom; but it's more than an individual sitting in his/her room obsessing about IT, whatever IT may be for them. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:21, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
I also am opposed to merging and agree with Orangemike. A fandom is a subculture of fans, but not all fans participate in (or are even aware of) the fandom.--Duesouthfan (talk) 00:35, 24 November 2012 (UTC)


So how do we continue this? Do we just remove it or do we wait for more people? Loper324 (talk) 07:36, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
I agree with removing it. I see no support for the merge here. Jclemens (talk) 08:01, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Fan Culture[edit]

I would like to see this definition added to the fandom article, as there is no page or definition for fan culture. The listing is referred back to fandom.

Fan culture is the behavior and practices exhibited by a group of people, a community, with an affinity or admiration for a common activity, show, person, or product. In today’s society, these cultures often have their own language, music, art, and literature, and fashion attire (Gooch, ND). [School of Literature, Communication, and Culture 1]

Sjcord (talk) 22:52, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

would like to see articles[edit]

I would like to see articles called "Star Wars fandom" and "Fantasy fandom". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.228.108.183 (talk) 19:46, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Star Wars fandom is so inchoate and fragmented that I am not sure you could write a solid article about it, compared to Star Trek fandom's documented history, or the shorter, but documented, history of Browncoats. You're welcome, of course, to try.
There is no organized fantasy fandom per se: from its beginning, "science fiction" fandom has been deeply interested in fantasy literature; in early years, the word "fantasy" or the phrase "science fantasy" was often used to encompass both varieties of speculative fiction, and to this day many of the very oldest fannish institutions, such as the Fantasy Amateur Press Association, the National Fantasy Fan Federation and the Los Angeles Science Fantasy Society, have the word "fantasy" in their titles, without bothering to add "and science fiction", since that was understood. Tolkien fandom, to name the only really notable example of a fantasy fandom, arose in the pages of science fiction fanzines long before the Tolkien boom of the 1960s; and many people drift across, or deny the existence of, any purported boundary between Tolkien fandom and ordinary SF fandom. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:24, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 4 March 2013[edit]

List of notable fandoms edited to include "Supernaturalists" - fans of the cult TV show Supernatural." 5.61.195.186 (talk) 17:47, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done There is no such article, since there is no large or coherent body of Supernatural fans (nor does its fandom meet the standards of intensity which lead to a fandom being tagged "cult"). --Orange Mike | Talk 03:20, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

I have a list of fandoms wich names.

One Direction/Directioners Lady Gaga/Little Monsters Ke$ha/Animals Little Mix/Little Mixers Justin Bieber/Beliebers Katy Perry/Katy Cats Cher Lloyd/Brats Ariana Grande/Arianators Demi Lovato/Lovatic Miley Cyrus/Smilers Avril Lavigne/Little Blackstar Adele/Daydreamers Big Time Rush/Rusher Austin Mahone/Mahonies Nicki Minaj/Barbz Selena Gomez/Selenators Rihanna/Rihanna navy Taylor Swift/Swiftie Jonoskians/Janoskianators — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.183.188 (talk) 18:43, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 June 2013[edit]

Please add Directioners as One Direction fans, Mixers as Little Mix fans, Smilers as Miley Cyrus Fans, J-Cats as Union J fans and Lovatics as Demi Lovato fans. Thanks.DedicatedDirectionerxox (talk) 18:15, 1 June 2013 (UTC) DedicatedDirectionerxox (talk) 18:15, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Not done: The fan groups listed in this article are supported either by stand-alone articles discussing the fandom, or sections of the artist's articles devoted to their fan base. None of the fan groups you list are notable enough to warrant their own article or section. Please provide reliable sources and include them in the appropriate article, then their inclusion can be considered here. --ElHef (Meep?) 18:23, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 9 June 2013[edit]

Fan activities; Pimp posting, a pimp post allows fans to promote their like /interest to others.

Kaffegeek (talk) 18:26, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Not done: That article has been nominated for deletion under multiple criteria within Wikipedia's deletion policy. You'll need to show its notability and provide reliable sources to support the information you would like added to Wikipedia in order for it to be included in the encyclopedia. --ElHef (Meep?) 19:08, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 24 August 2013[edit]

Please add more fandoms to the notable seciton. Examples are Tributes (Hunger Games), Transfers (Divergent), Shadowhunters (The Mortal Instruents) and Twihards (Twilight) Jackcr27 (talk) 19:39, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done and will not be done None of those groups (some of which only exist as nicknames) are notable enough to have articles about them in an encyclopedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:11, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 December 2013[edit]

Blockheads (fans of boy band New Kids on the Block) Backstreet Army (fans of boy band Backstreet Boys) Boybandfan (talk) 17:32, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done and will not be done As explained one item above this one, neither of these ephemeral phenomena has become noteworthy enough to have an article about it, and until and unless that changes, they will not be added to the article. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:41, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Media fandom[edit]

Unlike the articles on production or medium-specific fandom, I believe Media fandom is too general a term for a content fork and too much mirrors what one finds at Fandom. I believe a merge to a single general article would aid readers and the target article would not be too long, with unduplicated content added. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:09, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2014[edit]

One new fandom that should be added as a prominent fandom is Clone Club (fans of Orphan Black). This fandom is new and fiercely in love with its respective show, and the main reason why it is not represented is because it is relatively new, as the show just premiered a year ago. For more information, please visit http://thecloneclub.tumblr.com/ to see exactly what the fandom is up to and the 450+ pages of content submitted. I hope you will see their significance in the fandom world. [1] 98.237.191.71 (talk) 04:24, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 07:27, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2014[edit]

Notable Fandom addition. Xenites- Fans of "Xena: Warrior Princess" the author of this article uses the term in the last paragraph. I hope this is a good enough source! http://www.salon.com/1997/08/03/xena/ Jimzle84 (talk) 20:23, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: As explained above: fandom needs stand-alone article to be added to this article. Sam Sailor Sing 16:31, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Juggalos?[edit]

I don't like ICP, but they have a pretty big fan base — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.112.42.23 (talk) 02:18, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2014[edit]

Fandom does not mean fanatic + kingdom. Fandom is a combination of the two words fanatic domain, as to say a place for fans. 99eve99fab (talk) 18:36, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done: unsourced. Also, it doesn't say fanatic + kingdom. It explains it as a combination of fan and the suffix dom. G S Palmer (talkcontribs) 18:45, 23 December 2014 (UTC)


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  1. ^ Club, Clone. "The Clone Club". Tumblr.com. Tumblr. Retrieved 10 Mar 2014.