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From Nollekins and his times:

Nollekens's remarks upon this group of Theseus and Hercules, were sometimes laughable enough: he said, "The figures look like the dry skins of two brick-makers stuffed with clotted flocks from an old mattress;" and at other times he observed, "I think Locatelli must have studied Goltzius's Hercules;" a figure well known to the collectors of engravings under the appellation of the potatoe-man, in consequence of his muscles appearing more like that root, than any thing produced either above or below the earth.

Hesperian 00:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Like Leonardo on ?Pollaiuolo - see Battle of the Nudes (engraving). Did you mean to remove the older comments? Johnbod (talk) 00:45, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Should 'Farnese Hercules' be italicized?[edit]

The following discussion was moved from User talk:Robert.Allen#Farnese Hercules:

"as the title of a work of art, shouldn't this name be italicized?". No it shouldn't, actually. "Hercules" may be considered a title, but "Farnese Hercules" is a name, like Book of Kells, Rokeby Venus etc, and not italicized. I hope you haven't been doing lots of these. Johnbod (talk) 00:34, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello User:Johnbod, Well no, this is the only one I did, but there does seem to be some difference of opinion on this. For example, The Oxford Dictionary of Art italicizes it [1], as does Haskel in Taste and the Antique: The Lure of Classical Sculpture, 1500-1900 [2]. And here's an example of Rokeby Venus [3]. --Robert.Allen (talk) 02:36, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That is true, but you've no doubt noticed there are rather more the other way - all the old books, but I think over half of the modern ones. Is there a split across the Atlantic? The American books all seem not to italicize. Rather oddly no one seems (here or in comparable cases) to adopt the rather logical style "Farnese Hercules". Johnbod (talk) 02:39, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The National Gallery does not italicize the Rokeby Venus, nor does the BBC. Johnbod (talk) 02:58, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Neither of these websites appears to italicize the titles of paintings, regardless. I don't think their failure to italicize supports your argument. At least Francis Haskell is an art historian and Robin Osborne, an English historian of classical antiquity. --Robert.Allen (talk) 01:30, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't feel strongly about this, although I don't see any evidence that italics are "incorrect", but either way is fine with me as long as the article is consistent. It seems some editors had already italicized the name in at least two instances in the article before my edit. --Robert.Allen (talk) 03:18, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well I can't be bothered at the moment to do the Requested move to put it back so I suppose it will stay for now. But please don't do any more without raising the matter on the talk page, and ideally at the Visual arts project. Johnbod (talk) 03:24, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why does changing italics require a move? --Robert.Allen (talk) 01:14, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]