Talk:Fast of Gedalia

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Curiouser and curiouser[edit]

Please correct my study... Somehow I'm identifying that Hosh Roshannah is two days of celebration, or actually the twilight moment, at dusk between first and second of tishri. That this moment is the transition from the sixth day of creation to the seventh day; that it is the completion, and crowning of creation with Adam Kadmon, thus (re)presenting Hosh Roshannah. Hosh Roshanna being the moment when God's creation is completed, thus the entry into the divine Shabbat, seemingly lasting the ninefold days up to Yom Kippur, which is called the Shabbat of all Shabbats. First I found it strange that it was not the seventh day after 25th Elul that presented the Shabbat of Shabbats, before learning that it indeed was as I suspected. This seventh day, subconsequently reckonned, corresponded with the Fast of Gedalia. Before coming to terms, so to say, with the timing I found that the story of Gedalia in the Bible indicative of a long tradition for confusion and/or mystery in regard of this. The translation of the 2. book of Kings is pretty sad and confused, I think I can say, referring to the Norwegian Bible Company's 1978 edition. It seems that Gedalia's point was to say one should not be afraid of the Caldeans, among whom we allegedly find the cradle of calendrics and horoscopy (timereading, the science of prophecy). A protestantic-pietistic tradition have seemed eager to erase any trace of mystery, "jewishness", astrotheology, and so on, that's part of my interest in the field, unveiling such aspects of our cultural and religious heritage. Diaphanously the biased negative stand of the bible translators in regard of Caldean notion is omitting. I'm curious of whether this notion is, as I think, pertaining especially to the Lutheran tradition, or how this is in other traditions of the Book. I'm also interested in discrepancies of views in regard of the timing of the Fast of Gedalia, and eventually the oath of Gedalia. I guess this had something to do with the motive behind the murder. Or may I ask, what is hold up as in regard of Ismaels motivation? It is a question of great interest also because of the mythic relieff of the muslim, more precisely arabic, jewish conflict; and especially in regard of the conflict of what day is the holiest day. Isn't it so that this story goes into the marrow of that controversy? --Xact (talk) 16:02, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

In the Bible[edit]

I don't have time to edit this right now but ירמיהו (Jerimiah?) has much more information on Gedaliah than Kings.

date of the assassination[edit]

there is no primary evidence that the assassination took place in the year of the destruction (586/7). the consensus of scholarship today maintains it took place around 580, some six years later. if you'd like to read the scholarship and cant find it on your own, ask. but dont change my edits, thankyouverymuch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.114.7.2 (talk) 15:30, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Article name and merge[edit]

This article is now Fast of Gedalia with a spelling difference from Gedaliah. The two article should spell the name the same. But the two articles have so much overlap that I suggest that they should be merged. —Anomalocaris (talk) 08:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)