Talk:February 25–27, 2010 North American blizzard

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This is intended as the opening of a new page to deal with the Third North American blizzard of 2010. Please help with editing and improving this article as this "monster" storm (as the Philadelphia news agencies are referring to it) develops and affects the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast states. Bill S. (talk) 08:00, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

This Cannot be Called a Blizzard Yet[edit]

You can't call this a blizzard. It's no guarantee that, by definition, blizzard conditions will verify. It's foolish to create an article for an event with limited, spotty, inaccurate forecast data within it...AND call it something it's not...before it even happens. Njmatt04 (talk) 02:09, 25 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Njmatt04 (talkcontribs) 01:54, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Blizzard conditions are narrowly defined, and there's no way of knowing in advance if this storm will meet those criteria. As it stands, this article is too broad, saying that 12-18" will fall in a wide swath between BOS and PHL is inaccurate. HPC doesn't mention this scenario, and besides, the area of heaviest snowfall will likely concentrate north and west of NYC metro (NE PA, NRN NJ, LWR Hudson Valley). Leizmonk (talk) 02:34, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Blizzard conditions were verified during this storm, despite the lack of blizzard warnings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.230.143.172 (talk) 19:33, 28 February 2010 (UTC) .

Unless proof that blizzard conditions were verified is provided the I will attempt to change the title to a meteorological correct title. Edkollin (talk) 16:54, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. If there were confirmed blizzard conditions, they certainly weren't widespread enough to justify calling the storm a full-blown blizzard. Late February 2010 North American snowstorm? –Juliancolton | Talk 16:56, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Blizzard conditions were verified in the mountainous areas of W. Virginia, and blizzard warnings were issued in that area. However, there is no easy way to link up to these warnings, which are probably in archive on some obscure NOAA site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leizmonk (talkcontribs) 16:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Meteorological History[edit]

Recommend mentioning some of the uncommon characteristics of this storm including the regression west-ward due to it being a cutoff low and a blocking regime in place with the predominant jet stream. There's also no mention at this point of energy transfer between the upper air low and the surface low (a major contributing factor to rapid deepening).Leizmonk (talk) 02:36, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

The retrograde westward was mentioned in the first draft of the article. See: "The storm is expected to be blocked from moving away from the coast by a strong high pressure system over the Canadian Maritimes, and is expected to retrograde inland into New York state." Bill S. (talk) 15:38, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Protection of the page[edit]

I believe this page should be protected only until February 26 when the storm is predicted to end. The mass-vandalism is coming from users of the easternuswx.com and dabenchmark.com sites, who get all hyper when a snowstorm is predicted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NickD2010 (talkcontribs) 02:44, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

The New Jersey Turnpike was reduced to 35 mph speed limit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.164.199 (talk) 20:02, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Significance of events[edit]

Having added several references to impact of the storm, I'm not really sure all of them are worthy of mention (esp. RI parking lot). Also, suggest removal of impact sections left blank, DE, Canada.Leizmonk (talk) 21:07, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Re Canada -
http://weatheroffice.gc.ca/warnings/SWS_bulletins_e.html?prov=on
http://weatheroffice.gc.ca/warnings/SWS_bulletins_e.html?prov=qc —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.254.156.87 (talk) 22:56, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/winter-blast-hammers-eastern-canada/article1482217
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/02/26/nat-wind-storm.html
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20100226/winter_100226/20100226?hub=Canada
http://www.680news.com/news/local/article/30014--storm-brings-blowing-snow-to-southern-ontario
http://www.thebarrieexaminer.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2468576
(The National Post is concentrating more on US conditions, so I did not include it here.)
Because of the east-to-west motion, the storm was delayed in getting inland, so most warnings were for Québec and east. (http://weatheroffice.gc.ca/warnings/warnings_e.html) In Ontario it is disruptive and has cancelled or delayed some flights to and from the seaboard and Caribbean, but nothing really exceptional. (You States-side people are getting the worst of it -- again.) Beyond the usual traffic accidents, storm news is mostly being drowned out by the $50 million jackpot tonight, and of course the upcoming hockey and curling games.

The power outages in the Hudson Valley (including me, in the dark for 15 hours yesterday, although we're not one of their customers) are the worst in the history for Central Hudson Gas & Electric. [1]. Daniel Case (talk) 16:35, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

4th blizzard[edit]

Right now I am experiencing blizzard conditions in Rehoboth Beach Delaware. There are already several inches on the ground from last night through this morning. I was just on the beach where strong winds were blowing heavy snow everywhere on the beach. I don't know how significant this is considered for Rehoboth Beach. I live in the DC area and I go to Rehoboth a lot but this is my first time experiencing snow here. The town doesn't seem well prepared for snow. I am expecting a foot on the ground here when it is all said and done.

Move discussion in progress[edit]

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:First North American blizzard of 2010 which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RM bot 02:01, 28 December 2010 (UTC)