Talk:Fernando Lugo

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Lugo is still bishop released from lustration rights and duties[edit]

Fernando Lugo resigned as Bishop of the Diocese of San Pedro, but he is still a Roman catholic bishop (the Holy See released Lugo from exercising ordained ministry, but didn't dismiss him from the clerical state). Gugganij (talk) 22:23, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

The wording that ecclesiastic authorities in Paraguay are using to describe Lugo's situation is "a divinis suspension".

Aldo L (talk) 12:03, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, he was suspended but still a priest. However, yesterday the Vatican accepted his laicization . Gugganij (talk) 00:11, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Wrong: see can 285 CIC (1983)[edit]

A roman catholic priest or bishop will releases from his duties as priest or bishop if his working in a political or government office by the responsible ecclesiastical office in Rom/Vatican. It is forbidden for a priest or bishop based on ecclesiastical law (C.I.C 1983 - canon iuris canonici 1983; Can 285 CIC (1983)), which forbid this. Now Lugo is no more priest or bishop. Another example: Jean-Bertrand Aristide is a Haitian politician and former Roman Catholic salesian priest who was President of Haiti--69.10.33.206 (talk) 13:29, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

However, the Paraguayan Episcopal Conference sustains that Lugo is still a bishop. Source: http://www.ultimahora.com/notas/109794-Incertidumbre-sobre-relaciones-de-Paraguay-con-el-Vaticano Aldo L (talk) 12:14, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Cardinal Re/Vatican also informed him that he had been suspended from exercising his ministry as a bishop and priest.

Despite the suspension, Cardinal Re reminded Bishop Lugo that he "remains in the clerical state and continues to be bound by its obligations," Vatican Radio said.

The radio also reported that Cardinal Re had told Bishop Lugo that the task of a bishop is to lead the faithful and to work "for the salvation of souls and not to govern a political community."--69.10.33.206 (talk) 12:33, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

He acts against the words of Christus in the New Testament, the Gospel according to John, 21,15-17: "Feed my lambs", "Tend my sheep." "Feed my sheep." He backslides his offices as priest and bishop.--69.10.33.206 (talk) 13:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Poor quality[edit]

The quality of this article needs to be improved. Whilst I am unfamiliar with the subject, it is poorly written and has a tinge of political bias

Idg555 (talk) 19:19, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Spelling and Grammar[edit]

Spelling and grammar need to be corrected. Really needs to be fixed by someone knowledgeable on the subject without the political bias.

78.143.195.52 (talk) 10:26, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

This passage needs to be rewritten:

"Even though on November 16, 2007, the Chairman of the National Republican Party (ANR, Partido Colorado), then-sitting President Nicanor Duarte Frutos, announced that the Colorado Party would not initiate any proceedings to block Lugo's candidacy,[7] there is a debate going on about its legality, because Article 235 of the Constitution forbids ministers of any religious denomination to hold elective office,[8] and Pope Benedict XVI rejected Lugo's resignation from the priesthood.[9]"

Aldo L (talk) 13:07, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Political bias[edit]

Maybe this passage is slighly biased:

"Known as so-called "bishop of the poor", Lugo was seen in the subsequent months as the most serious threat to the dominance of the Colorado Party on Paraguayan politics. Although he has said he finds the presidency of Hugo Chávez in Venezuela interesting, he has also made a point to distance himself from populist leaders in Latin America, focusing more on social inequality in Paraguay."

What do you think?

There was also a lot of controversy sorrounding a possible link between Lugo and some guerrilla groups in San Pedro, but nothing has been proven.

Aldo L (talk) 13:05, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

He acts against the words of Christus in the New Testament, the Gospel according to John, 21,15-17: "Feed my lambs", "Tend my sheep." "Feed my sheep." He backslides his offices as priest and bishop, guilty of apostasy --69.10.33.206 (talk) 13:29, 1 May 2008 (UTC)--69.10.33.206 (talk) 13:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC) Very nice display of political bias but do you need to keep using bold? I dont know enough about the specifics, but i think Aldo knows what hes doing, it seams there is at least a slight bias in the article. http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Lugo&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Lugo%26num%3D20%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff I think a few changes could include

  • mention that the vatican rejected his resignation when mentioning his resignation
  • the spanish version has the following text that seams to describe your quote:"Lugo has had trouble with the Vatican because it does not recognize his resignation as bishop and has opposed his new political career, as well as the Paraguayan regime that has failed attempt to prevent his nomination maneuvers. Close to liberation theology, Lugo has wanted to avoid political labels declaring at the outset of the political center. In September 2007 announced sympathies toward socialism." unfortunatly it seams more biased
  • this text might also be useful "In his political action Lugo has established ties with the Socialist International. Especially with his secretary General Luis Ayala, approaches that were made possible thanks to the PRF is a full member of the SI"
  • unfortunatly i couldnt find any information on the possible link to guerrillas--82.35.192.193 (talk) 22:54, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

¡De vuelta![edit]

Alright, now our friend is back in the In The News section. Of course because of that lots of people are going to visit this page. I had forgotten about Fernandito. And I hope he doesn't stay in the Main Page ad eternum!--J.C. (talk) 04:15, 16 August 2008 (UTC) Goodbye Sinebot!

Lugo's child[edit]

On Holy Wednesday, 2009, 26-year-old Viviana Carrillo sued Fernando Lugo on alleged grounds of being the father of her two-year-old son. She also stated that she first became romantically involved with the then Roman Catholic bishop when she was still an underage teenager. The child was conceived when Lugo was still a priest and was entering the presidential race. On April 13, 2009, Fernando Lugo made a televised statement recognizing the child's paternity. Rumors had been raised during the 2007-2008 presidential campaign, but back then Lugo has dismissed the issue as political dirty tactics.

http://www.abc.com.py/2009-04-13/articulos/512132/lugo-reconoce-que-es-padre-de-nino-de-dos-anos

http://www.lanacion.com.py/noticias_um-240209.htm

http://www.ultimahora.com/notas/212485-Lugo-reconoce-la-paternidad-de-un-ni%C3%B1o-tras-esc%C3%A1ndalo-por-filiaci%C3%B3n

Aldo L (talk) 14:32, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

This guy should be impeached! What a crook! He should not be president of any country and I'm not amazed a bit by the fact he is a catholic bishop, they are all crooks.66.201.166.163 (talk)
Actually as of Yesterday given the overall perception that he has no clue on what he's doing as a President and other political events in the Nation, the congress has began a montion to try to impeach him. Veritiel (talk) 15:28, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Lugo fired Military Chiefs[edit]

This site: [Fox News] talks about the fact that this Marxist fired military leaders.Agre22 (talk) 01:18, 5 November 2009 (UTC)agre22

What has his presidency been like?[edit]

That seems like a pretty important thing to have omitted. --WikiMarshall (talk) 23:07, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree. This article is heavy on the controversial aspects of his life: paternity questions, past Church responsibilities-- but light on how he has performed as chief executive. AlexStef (talk) 15:31, 12 August 2010 (UTC)