Talk:Finland Proper

Moving to Finland Proper

This article should be moved to Finland Proper, which is currently a redirect page linking to Finland Proper (historical province). As current Finnish regions are (in my opinion at least) much more notable than historical provinces of the Kingdom of Sweden (for which there are not many sentences of text in the articles anyway), I believe this should be the more prevalent article. This has already been proposed at Talk:Historical provinces of Finland, and since nobody has responded to the suggestion in over four days, I suppose there's not much opposition to the proposal. - ulayiti (talk) 19:07, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

This article has been renamed after the result of a move request. violet/riga (t) 22:39, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Could we move away from the term "Finland Proper"? It is a worthy attempt to translate "Varsinais-Suomi" into English literally. Unfortunately the literal translation doesn't make sense in English. Can't we just stick with "Varsinais-Suomi"? Nobody in their right mind would try to translate into English "Lappeenranta" or "Tampere"... or even "Glasgow", though all have interesting and informative translations. - malcolmrutter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malcolmrutter (talk • contribs) 12:43, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

This article uses an incorrect name of a province. It has officially labelled itself in English as the province of Southwest Finland.

Cities?

What on earth is the Finnish definition of a city? I've lived in Kaarina for almost a decade and there's no way that a native English speaker would ever describe Paimio, Askainen et al. as cities. They are towns and small towns, at that. It's not even as if they have any ecclesiastical claims as the only cathedral I'm aware of in the entire province of Varsinais Suomi is the Tuomio in Turku. Can somebody please explain? Jatrius 17:40, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Any muncipality can decide if they are a city or not. There is no rules or requirements for it anymore. Atleast if Finnish Wikipedia is right.

--82.130.33.175 (talk) 00:02, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

There are rules and requirements about the term "kaupunki"/"stad". The municipality has to regard itself as such. :-)

But I would translate the words as town, not city, unless the municipality is a city. The definition of city is of course unclear, but the right to call oneself a "kaupunki", which can be translated as either, doesn't bring any legitimacy for the term city in this context.

--LPfi (talk) 21:59, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Outdated

The map and the list of municipalities is badly outdated, ie. Alastaro is now a part of Loimaa, etc. 88.115.205.94 (talk) 23:20, 3 December 2008 (UTC)