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- 1 Only THE most controversial topic in Islam
- 2 Move
- 3 Removal of the banner saying page needs editting
- 4 Zaidi Shia, Jaffari Shias and Zahiris
- 5 Salman
- 6 Merge from Islamic Jurisprudence?
- 7 Move to Islamic Jurisprudence
- 8 Based directly on the Quran and Sunna
- 9 Pronunciation Help
- 10 Legal Systems Map Errors
- 11 Methodologies of jurisprudence
- 12 Ja'fari jurisprudence
Only THE most controversial topic in Islam
Only THE most controversial topic in Islam - more scholars that look at this, the better.
The very purpose of the Ijtihaad of a mujtahid is that it should be followed, so i'm removing the silly comment about "who had no idea..." HussaynKhariq 19:17, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
This article was moved without any discussion by Timothy Usher. Even ignoring that Timothy has a done this before, the move is unacceptable. We leave articles with their correct names. The example I used was that Jewish Law redirects to Halakha, but of course there are many other articles like that. There is no rule that says we have to accept the translation of the name. Fiqh is the correct and appropriate name for the concept, not Islamic Jurisprudence. So unless Timothy is willing to redirect all wikipedia pages to their rough translations and not just targetting the Islamic ones whenever he finds the chance, he should stop making arbitrary moves. --a.n.o.n.y.m t 21:44, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
I understand the article may need editing. However, because of the side bar with the links, the placement of the need to edit banner may confuse readers to think the page is empty and not scroll down. I think for the sake of others, we should take it down but continue working. If the article needs work, I can try to help.ZaydHammoudeh 06:40, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
- Scratch the above message. I fixed the problem. Sorry for the mistake.ZaydHammoudeh 07:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
- The article still reads like a mere list of inter-Wiki links. I am fully aware that the issue is wrought in controversy, but such a controversial topic might deserve a fuller article than the amputated list it is now, no? --Tirolion 12:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Zaidi Shia, Jaffari Shias and Zahiris
I see we are missing Zaidis - A group of Shia that is very similar to Hanafis in terms of Fiqh.
- I once asked a (Yemeni) Zaidi about their fiqh (and the fact that he was willing to pray behind Sunnis whereas most Iraqi Shiahs weren't) and he mentioned there had been a split some time in the past between those who decided to stay close to Shiah fiqh and those who came adopted understandings closer to the Sunni opinion. I'd be interested to hear more about what they actually practice but I've not come acroos any English sources about them. Incidentally the Zaidi madhhab has nothing to do with the Zaidis of the Indian subcontinent. 220.127.116.11 00:05, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
- Salman al Farsi is not the grandfather of Abu Hanifa. --Truthpedia 19:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Merge from Islamic Jurisprudence?
Based directly on the Quran and Sunna
Is it necessary to have "—which is based directly on the Quran and Sunna—" in the lead sentence? This recent change seems to introduce a distracting POV argument into the lede section. I'm no expert in this subject, so I'm asking if others may consider this. / edg ☺ ☭ 17:40, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'm the one who added that to the lead. The idea is both Sharia and fiqh are often translated as "Islamic law", so it's useful to distinguish between them straight away. --BoogaLouie (talk) 17:57, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- To a novice reader like me, the interrupted structure seems to emphasize the lineage from Quran and Sunna, almost defensively suggesting fiqh is therefore sacred and beyond revision. (I realize this is not literally stated in this text, or intended, but it reminds me of Catholics I've met who confidently state theirs is the true Christianity because the papal line of succession decends from Peter, appointed by Jesus.)
- Does this version work? Same meaning I think, but with evolving nature given equal emphasis. Please revert if this changes the meaning. I'm also wondering if "supplemented" makes more sense than "complemented". Again, I'm ignorant on this subject, and confident in my ability to be wrong here. / edg ☺ ☭ 23:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- fɪqh -- I think would be the IPA. It's basically "fick" as you would say it in English but instead of the 'k' sounds it's 'q' which is voiceless uvular plosive--very similar but Arabs can tell them apart. I think the 'ha' at the end is just sort of like aspiration since there is no vowel sound after it... at least that's how I've heard it. gren グレン 22:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Legal Systems Map Errors
The legal systems map contains errors or inaccuracies, e.g. in terms of Morocco, the legal system is largely Code Civil with Islamic jurisprudence only applying to family law, and that itself 'translated' into code civil. A similar situation holds in Jordan (although with Common Law influence). It's grossly inaccurate to suggest the legal system is primarily Islamic jurisprudence based, like say in Saudi Arabia. collounsbury (talk) 12:35, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Methodologies of jurisprudence
I removed the Quran alone line in this section, this is not a methodology of law but a sect who do not accept that any sayings of Muhammad have been preserved throughout history. This is completely rejected by prety much everyone muslim and non muslim alike. Further more there are no qualafied indaviduals in this sect, they have produced no legal works and there have never been any institutions of higher learning who teach this anywhere they number maybe in the thousands around the world and are hardely noteworthy.
This page is about Law and its methodoligies not reductionist theory by unqualafied indaviduals/laymen.
i removed the line "the Shia leader for Shia Islam" this isnt an accurate representation of history, since none of these imams formed a madhhab in their own lifetimes but later generations codified their methodologies and established these schools. The imam was also not a leader in his own life time and avoided all attempts to thrust him into positions of leadership.