Talk:Fire lance

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Huochong[edit]

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The result of this discussion was no consensus. NukeofEarl (talk) 16:24, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

By Needham p. 222 these are same. Have mörser, will travel (talk) 06:30, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

They are not the same.Huochong is a kind of metal gun.Fire lance is a lance,which mounts flamethrower.霹靂流星 (talk) 13:59, 14 February 2014 (UTC)


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Ottoman Empire and "first guns"[edit]

I am removing the addition of this paragraph:

  • The Fire lance did not reach up to the specifications of a gun, but it was the first Gunpowder weapon. Modern scientists credit the Ottoman Empire for having developed the first gun, which they used to maximum effect on the battlefields.

Because it is only partially true. Again, Ottomans did not invent the first gun. They merely adopted it. Reword it to be more accurate and include a reference for verification.-- OBSIDIANSOUL 05:40, 11 December 2014 (UTC)