Talk:Fire support base
Origin of Concept?
It states in the article lead that the South Koreans were the inspiration for the FB concept and links to a specific article. However, that battle took place in 1967, well after US forces started using FBs (or FSBs, which was a later term). I've never seen mention of the South Korean influence, and was wondering if anyone could provide a source before I rewrite the lead?Intothatdarkness (talk) 21:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- The Battle of Tra Bihn Dong is probably one of the most famous battle involving the use of firebase. Firebase was developed years prior (around 1965) to that battle. For example, in 9-10 August 1966, Korean troops engaged NVA troops using the firebase at the Battle of Duc Co, then the U.S. examine the use of these type of bases afterward. The U.S. did not like the concept of firebase prior to the battle. Kadrun (talk) 19:04, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
- The only problem with that is that FSBs were being used by US forces prior to that date. Do you have a source for the statement that the US didn't like the concept prior to Duc Co?Intothatdarkness (talk) 19:55, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
- Your linked source doesn't deal with the fact that US units were using FSBs prior to the August battle. Not taking away from Korean troops, but it will require more than this to support the claim that FSBs were invented by Korean units.Intothatdarkness (talk) 20:34, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
- Could they be for that even they're only from Korea?
- -http://kookbang.dema.mil.kr/kookbangWeb/view.do?ntt_writ_date=20131202&parent_no=1&bbs_id=BBSMSTR_000000000128 2nd sentence of 5th paragraph(Article of The Kookbang Ilbo(revised rominization might be Gukbang Ilbo), newspaper published by Ministry of National Defense of ROK describing general Chae Myung-shin)-"He made the world surprise with Battle of Duc Co and Battle of Trà Bình, using 'Company Streategy Base(중대전술기지)' based on his Korean War(6.25 전쟁in korean) experience."
- -http://www.imhc.mil.kr/user/imhc/download/vetnam/V20.pdf Document of the Institute for Military History Complication of Ministry of National Defense of ROK(국방부 군사편찬연구소/also only korean lang). Article about battle of Duc Co - in this article, US 3th Brigadier General ordered 'Search and Destroy', but Company Commander of ROK followed General Chae's CSB.
- Concept of the CSB is a circular base of a company(too long to describe with my English, so concept is too simplified). In each company base, foxholes are linked special way and covered by mortars in the center of the base(high ground), 105mm artillery cannons in the HQ, and air supports. One base stores amount of 48h supplies expected at least. https://www.google.com/search?q=%EC%A4%91%EB%8C%80%EC%A0%84%EC%88%A0%EA%B8%B0%EC%A7%80&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=G1woU9-aIrKV7Abcm4DgBA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=668#imgdii=_ are picks about basic concept. Also shows actual bases, but reference of these images. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 15:37, 18 March 2014 (UTC)