Talk:First Unitarian Church of Detroit

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Hatnote to external link[edit]

There have been a number of edits and reversions recently regarding the use of an external link in a hatnote for this article. Wikipedia is quite clear as described here that hatnotes are for links to other Wikipedia pages. If there's some reason why this does not apply to this article or a reason why this article should be an exception, please explain here. Thank you. SchreiberBike talk 23:14, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Also, I had posed the question to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation#Hatnote to external link for opinions on people that are experts in this situation. — X96lee15 (talk) 23:26, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarifications and references. I responded on the Talk page that X96lee15 references above.
After the fire on May 10, it was widely reported that the First Unitarian Church of Detroit in Midtown had burned down, and the First Unitarian Universalist Church of Detroit in Midtown was deluged with calls and other communications assuming that it had burned down. The church that burned down was interesting architecturally and historically, and the Wikipedia article is well written and quite valuable. However, it should be noted up front that the institution with nearly the same name -- The First Unitarian Universalist Church of Detroit -- is a separate entity that continues to exist in a nearby location. As is evident from the experience of the past week, many people are confused about the distinction between the two buildings, and in spirit of the web and Wikipedia, it is only proper to provide convenient access to information about the First Unitarian church that actually still exists and which may be more relevant for the majority of people inquiring about the First Unitarian Church of Detroit.
I thought about creating a separate Wikipedia page for the First Unitarian Universalist Church of Detroit and we will probably do this in the near future, but according to the Wikipedia guidelines, not every organization needs its own Wikipedia page. --Dan Secrest (talk) 14:08, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
You raise a good point about possible confusion above, but a link to an external website in a hatnote is not the solution (see WP:ELHAT). A sentence in the opening paragraph like "The nearby First Unitarian Universalist Church of Detroit is an unrelated church though the names are similar" might be helpful for the reader. SchreiberBike talk 04:23, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Coming here from the Disambiguation Wikiproject ... I have added, in the "History" section, a mention of the current church and its historical links to the subject of the article, sourced to the 1964 pamphlet reproduced on its website, and a redirect from First Unitarian Universalist Church of Detroit to that section. I hope I've got it right: it's rather a complicated history and my head started spinning as I tried to work it out. Please correct what I've put if it's wrong! I think this should help solve confusion by clarifying that the FUUCoD is distinct from the FUCoD. PamD 21:54, 19 May 2014 (UTC)