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[edit] A British Flag for the New Millennium
In 1999 the The Heraldry Society had a contest to design "A British Flag for the New Millennium" Here is the winner. The vertical lines indicate Gules, and the horizontal lines indicate Azure. Just thought I'd put it on record. -- Evertype·✆ 11:07, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- The Flag of Newfoundland and Labrador already did it first (and arguably better)... AnonMoos (talk) 02:35, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Meaning of the UK flag?
User: Political Dweeb here has a question about the meaning given by two flags that construct the United Kingdom flag. I want to understand does the red colour of the two flags that are St Patricks flag and the English flag/St Georges flag have any particular meaning or was it chosen for a different reason?
Political Dweeb (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 18:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Click on the links in this article to those two crosses (St Patrick's; St George's), and you will find out about the origin of the red colour. There is additional historical information at Union Flag; that is, until someone merges the two articles. Softlavender (talk) 03:08, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
User: Political Dweeb here does not seem to have found anything on the articles about the St Georges and Patricks flag that explains the meaning of the red colour of these two flags crosses.
Do you hapen to know if there is any meaning to red colour of these flags crosses. Political Dweeb (talk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.235.211.217 (talk) 18:57, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
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- Sorry for a belated answer, but in general it's somewhat in vain to seek for specific concrete meanings for the colors of abstract geometric shapes in heraldry. Sometimes an official interpretation of the meaning of a country's flag appears in a law or legislative resolution or executive decree ("red for the blood of the martyrs by which our independence was attained" etc. etc.), but such interpretations are generally rather arbitrary, and in some cases obviously ex post facto (retroactive). AnonMoos (talk) 02:39, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Interregnum / Commonwealth (Cromwell) flags
The article as it now stands seems to studiously avoid any mention of the Oliver Cromwell period; for now, I added "see also" links to Protectorate Jack and Commonwealth Flag... AnonMoos (talk) 02:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Secularism and multiculturalism
The current article should perhaps consider examining whether there have ever been any proposals to change the British flag in light of the modern ideologies of secularism and multiculturalism. It is generally recognized that contemporary Britain has a declining Christian population, due to the rise of atheism and agnosticism, as well as an increasing non-Christian population, due to factors like immigration and above-average ethnic birth rates. In light of all this, it is not at all unreasonable to think that the Union Jack's days are numbered, since it merely represents the symbols and identity of a population who is no longer in the absolute majority. ADM (talk) 13:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- The article may consider anything that already has a credible source as long as this in not original research. Besides which would it be accurate to say that any entrenched symbol relies on the original motive for its use - if so, we would have to believe that that doctors employed the use of staffs and serpents! Dainamo (talk) 13:19, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
[edit] Article disagrees with the official specifications—needs changes?
...with regards to the proportions. The official booklet "Flying Flags in the United Kingdom: A guide to Britain's flag protocol" [1], published in March 2010 by the Flag Institute and the Flags and Heraldry Committee, states in Appendix C (p16):
The normal proportions for the national flags of the United Kingdom are 3:5 on land, but ensigns are customarily made in proportion 1:2.
However the article currently states, incorrectly, that the non-military land flag is 1:2. Normally I would change something like this myself, but I realised that all the images would need changing too, and would prefer that someone more experienced do it (and also check that, for instance, the colours match the Pantone values given in the document). 188.221.240.150 (talk) 17:13, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
[edit] Revisited: Merge with Union Flag / Union Jack
Some time ago, at the end of 2007, a discussion took place on merging the articles concerning this flag into a single article. A consensus was reached and it was agreed to wait three, and then six months for objections to be raised. 3 years later, and nothing has happened. I see nothing which invalidates the earlier decision and so I propose that the articles are merged into Flag of the United Kingdom as planned. I'm aware that there will be protests from people who disagree, but the delay in taking action on the last discussion does not invalidate the result. The irony is that a new vote would be anti-democratic, as it would seek to disregard a previous result. Amend-o-pedia (talk) 10:04, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
