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Boundaries?[edit]

Having lived in the area for a while while attending the university of the same name, I would respectfully disagree with the boundaries of this neighborhood stated in this article.

I do believe that the Fordham neighborhood does not extend as far north as 196th Street, and that Bedford Park begins below there. I'll see what kind of sourcing I can find on this, as I do recall an official source substantiates this impression.--Mantanmoreland 13:08, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree with your impression - I changed the northern boundary of Fordham from 196th Street to 194th Street/Kingsbridge Road. I don't think the northern boundary should go any lower than 196th Street because I also get the impression that Fordham does go above Fordham Road at least a couple of blocks. In the article, I had also previously put down Webster Avenue as the neighborhood's western boundary. Would you agree with this? -EJ220 22:44, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Many if not most Bronxites now refer to Fordham as anything within walking distance of Fordham Road to be honest. Could be far south as the Cross Bronx, far north as Mosholu Parkway. The "official" Fordham area is between Jerome and Webster Avenues, south of Fordham Road down to East Burnside. Fordham-Bedford is north of Fordham Road to Bedford Park Blvd between Jerome and Webster. The name Fordham-Bedford is in newer usage in reflection to the changing demographics south of Bedford Park Blvd (was once just just Bedford Park). Fordham-Bedford now mirrors the economic demographics of Fordham, it was once the transition area. Bedford Park is on it's way there if not already. It's tricky but the borders are always changing as the economic demographics from the South Bronx push north. Wikiwiki718 (talk) 02:50, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Unbalanced[edit]

This article maintains a negative tone, and includes a number of unsourced statements, or statements that are misinterpreted or don't substatiate the text, presented in such a way as to present evidence for a negative impression. Shoreranger (talk) 17:58, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

I happen to agree on this article being unbalanced. Being that I was raised in Fordham, and was a memebr of The Bronx County Historical Society. I have written an article, extending much into The History of Fordham, from it's early colonial days as Old Fordham Village. and extending to the present boundaries of Fordham Today. Yes... To the North, Fordham extends up to about 196th. Street. To the South, it extends originally to about 187th. Street, but extends to Tremont Avenue (known as South Fordham). To the East to about Southern Blvd., but a portion of what is known as Bronx "Little Italy", has been re-named Belmont. To the West, to about Jerome Avenue, with a portion overlaying into what is called Kingsbridge.

Aedwardmoch (talk) 23:01, 3 August 2008 (UTC)AedwardmochAedwardmoch (talk) 23:01, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

I wonder if the Old Fordham Village article, which is nicely done, should be merged into the main Fordham article. BTW, I went to school, K-12, in the Fordham area (PS 33, JHS 79, old BxSci), and I never heard of Old Fordham Village, so I learned much from it. And it would be great to source some statements and possibly rebalanceBellagio99 (talk) 19:29, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

"Walt" Was Here[edit]

Back in the 1920's, on the corner of Fordham Road and Webster Avenue (this building still exists) was the home of "The Raoul Barre Studios", it was an art school. Students that attended, would eventually become known as "Early Cartoon Animators". Many found work for Animator-Director, Paul Terry of "Terrytoons" fame. One day in the early 1930's, a young upstart in animation came to The Barre Studio, and announced that he was going to start an animation studio in Los Angeles, California, and needed good artists. To Barre's surprise, almost half of his staff and students went with him that day. this upstart was none other than "Walt Disney". The building was on the former site of the Old Fordham Hotel and Taverine, from where renown poet-writer, Edgar Allan Poe was seen there frequently, when he lived in Fordham.


Aedwardmoch (talk) 02:12, 24 October 2008 (UTC)AedwardmochAedwardmoch (talk) 02:12, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Neat, do you have verification, which is what WP supposedly lives by?Bellagio99 (talk) 01:31, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
The chronology certainly looks iffy. Barré retired from the Barré Studio in 1927 and went to Montreal, where he set up an art school in 1930 and died in 1932 [1]. So he probably wasn't there to be "surprised" in the early 1930s. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 02:53, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

You might read the published book "The Art of Walt Disney", published 1973, By Harry N. Abrams, (ISBN: )-8109-0122-6). It is possible that Raoul Barre may have left prior, but the studio was still active? At his height, Barre chose The Edison Studios, what is now called the "Fordham-Bedford, Bronx" section of New York City.

Aedwardmoch (talk) 02:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC)AedwardmochAedwardmoch (talk)

Aed, Thanks for this info. Can you give full biblio. info, including page number, as per WP:V? Bellagio99 (talk) 19:52, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Though I was told that Disney paid a visit to The Raoul Barre Studios by a reliable source, the book, "The Art of Walt Disney", brings additional published information on Raoul Barre. In Part 1, Early Enterprizes, Pg. 23-24. "At that time the industry was centered in New York City. One of several studios was that of Raoul Barre... Dick Huemer, later a Disney Illustrator and storyman, was in 1916, a student at The Art Students League and living in The Bronx, where The Barre Studio was located. He recalls seeing Barre's business sign on the door at the corner of Fordham Road and Webster Avenue." In those days, Fordham was an area for early silent films, and cartoon animation. A few blocks North of Fordham Road, off Webster Avenue, there was The Edison Studios, at Decatur Avenue and Oliver Place, and South of Fordham Road was The Biograph Studios.

Aedwardmoch (talk) 03:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)AedwardmochAedwardmoch (talk) 03:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)