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Controversy about the Sky / BBC deal could be added? At the time, it was very popular in the news about Formula 1 becoming a "Pay TV" programme due to the BBC only being able to broadcast half. It may also be quite significant in terms of the popularity of the sport. Just a thought - Predspread (talk) 19:45, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Not very import in the history of Formula One is it? Didn't affect the outcome of any races did it? --Falcadore (talk) 16:40, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
I see where you're coming from, but it was the first time that every race in the calendar wasn't available for non-Pay TV viewers. Predspread (talk) 03:27, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Given that the lead makes it clear that formula 1 is essentially a set of standards to do with the cars and conditions of the races that run under that name I find it odd that these rules aren't actually laid out in the article. It seems to me that It would be useful to lay out at least the basic rules somewhere near the top of the article or at least provide a link in the lead to a full set of the specifications of formula 1 (if such a thing exists and is accessible). 18.104.22.168 (talk) 15:27, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
I've added a link in the lead to the Formula One regulations page, which covers the basics. If you want the full rules, the regulations are accessible through the links at the bottom of the page. Thanks. QueenCake (talk) 18:52, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Cronology of Formula One teams present in the 2013 season
I propose to add this table. This information appears in the article of F1 of spanish, and some users has asked for information like this. What do you think?
† The reason that Renault, Honda y Mercedes-Benz competed before and did not appear on this list is because they were not Toleman and Tyrrell predecessors respectively. Unlike the case of Sauber, which it was. Team Lotus also participated previously in Formula One between 1958 and 1994, and BMW did the same in 1952 and 1953.
In 2012 the Spanish team HRT failed to raise the money to pay the FIA to participate in 2013 Season.
It needs to be cleaned up a bit (grammar, etc), but I like it. Very informative. ColinClark (talk) 18:50, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! It happens that i´m uruguayan, so i speak a native spanish and a basic english. If you want, you can put how it should be explained in each point with a better use of grammar. Greetings.--Fmln93 (talk) 02:47, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I was looking for a historical list of team owners.
Considering this request, and that almost three users agree on the use of this table, I propose to add it when (at least) has not grammatical errors. Greetings.--Fmln93 (talk) 03:01, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
It has the same problems when it was deleted two years ago. It is a hideous mass of colour, colour which is unexplained by by the lack of pictures of race cars related to the chart. Charts like this should have an emphasis on neutral high-contrast colour schemes, remembering that the audience for people who read wikipedia are people who know little about Formula One, especially what colours the cars are. Also these sort of colour schemes created visibility problems for the partially blind and the colour-blind.
Secondly the are numerous inaccuracies. Firstly, Tyrrell first entered Formula One in 1968 utilising Matras and first entered a Grand Prix at the 1966 German Grand Prix with a Formula 2 Matra. BMW was always refered to as BMW Sauber, not BMW. Also BMW did not enter Formula one in 1952 and 1953, but rather privateers who owned cars built by BMW. Toyota, Ligier and Prost are not on the chart anywhere so why are they mentioned at all? The various Lotuses are connected by name only which is incorrectly explained. Renault, Honda, Mercedes-Benz and BMW (inaccurately) have two teams explained but the two Williams teams are not mentioned. Minardi/Toro Rosso bar makes no mention of the 1994 merger with BMW Scuderia Italia.
Thirdly, there is no mention of how this chart has overcome the problems which saw it deleted three years ago. --22.214.171.124 (talk) 03:14, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Fourthly this chart in no way explains team ownership just how the teams have changed hands. A historical list of team owners whould list people like Bernie Ecclestone, Enzo Ferrari, Dietrich Mietsisch, Frank Williams, Jack Brabham, Max Mosely, Ron Dennis, Andrea Lucchinni, Giancarlo Minardi, Robin Herd, Bruce McLaren, Colin Chapman, Ken Tyrrell etc
I understand your point of view but I think some points of your explanation are weak. For example, the colour of the background of each line it is based on the colour of the last car of each team (I did it by doing a capture of the colour of last car). Secondly, I not seem necesary specify the team owners, because it is not included in the name of this section and it was not requested by the user (he/she asked for teams specifically, not owners). Another point is that this table only shows the evolution of the present constructors, so not pretend to clarify more things. I agree with you in that it is more necesary to have a table which shows all teams (I am working in it), but as I said above, is not the principal objetive of this one. I understand too if you want to eliminate the information, I agree that it is not necesary. Greetings.--Fmln93 (talk) 03:56, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
What do you mean weak? Wikipedia has a policy on the subject. WP:Color. It does not matter what colour the last car the team used was, the principal applies in all cases. Respect the visually impaired and use basic high-constrast colours only. Besides, how does anyone know it is the colour of the last car they raced, there aren't any pictures.
When you use a readers comment stating: I was looking for a historical list of team owners then it very much brings up the point of team owners. You a using that request to justify a table which does not answer the readers question, which was about team owners.
This chart should not be even remotely considered until the mistakes are fixed at least. --126.96.36.199 (talk) 04:51, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
This is a pretty selective list. Where are Yeoman Credit, BRM, ERA, HWM, Walter Wolf, Frank Williams Racing, Lola, Tyrrell, Surtees, Honda, & Scuderia Milano (just off the top of my head)? TREKphilerany time you're ready, Uhura 06:47, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
At a guess, none related to current teams. Although, Tyrrell is there. 188.8.131.52 (talk) 08:42, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
But surely Tyrrell did not "become" BAR? I thought the latter bought their F1 place and nothing else. Britmax (talk) 15:02, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Indeed. Different location, different personnel. If Tyrrell became anything, it was the Harvey Postlethwaite Honda team which never raced (which wasn't related to BAR). -- Ian Dalziel (talk) 15:33, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
"At a guess, none related to current teams." Quite right, & my mistake. Which makes me ask another: why do we want (alone need) this for only the latest season(s)? If it's going to be done at all, it should be standard. If it's to be standard, I'd oppose it as trivial (& ugly); indeed, I'd oppose on those grounds anyhow. TREKphilerany time you're ready, Uhura 15:42, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
On the BAR article it clearly states that British American Tobacco sort-of brought out Tyrrell, so in my opinion Tyrrell should be on that table. However, I do not think the table is suitable for the article (apologies to the creator for the time he spent on it), and under my interpretation of the feedback (the same as 184.108.40.206) it doesn't answer the question. I think a small bit of detail on the formation/entry of the current teams as some text would be a good idea; I can imagine that quite a few people looking at the article would be looking at the article for that kind of information. —Gyaro–Maguus— 20:34, 15 August 2013 (UTC)