Talk:Fortition

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Merger?[edit]

Consonant mutation, Consonant gradation, Spirantization, Lenition, Fortition and Fortis and lenis all seem to be about the same kind of phenomenon. Perhaps they should be merged. FilipeS 21:29, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I vote for separate articles; together with insertion, deletion, metathesis, assimilation, dissimilation, etc., fortition and deletion form major categories for sound change. --Kjoonlee 19:52, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Consonant mutation and consonant gradation are important specific cases, and fortis vs lenis is not really the same as forition vs lenition. Spirantization looks like a good candidate for merging into the lenition article, tho. --Tropylium (talk) 22:13, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Merged spirantization. That was a no-brainer. kwami (talk) 06:36, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Wrong symbol?[edit]

In the table of Gaelic examples, what are the diacritics above g and b? If they are the voicelss diacritic shouldn't they be below the characters?

Marquetry28 (talk) 20:38, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, on the b. Fixed. On the g, it would interfere with the descender. kwami (talk) 21:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Ah they need changing [b] > [p] etc. I'll do that. These date back to the time when I used broad phonemic rather than close for Gaelic. Akerbeltz (talk) 23:23, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Hard to see the difference in the symbols[edit]

"The extremely common approximant sound [j] is sometimes subject to fortition; since it is a semivowel, almost any change to the sound other than simple deletion would constitute fortition. It has changed into the voiced fricative [ʝ]" . Okay, here in this font, [ʝ] and [j] are distinguishable, but in the text they look the same, actually like [i], since the tails almost merge with the left brackets. Is there some way of cleaning this up?Kdammers (talk) 00:59, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Added a few thin spaces. Does this help? --Trɔpʏliʊmblah 15:06, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Some. Kdammers (talk) 12:10, 14 August 2012 (UTC)