Talk:Founder effect
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I suggest that both the founder and bottleneck effects be merged with genetic drift as subtitles. As Jheald suggested, the article "founder population" should become a part of the description of the founder effect (perhaps as part of the effects of a single founder event).-E. D. Sperry 21:51, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Merge
Suggest that this page and Founder population should be merged. -- Jheald 12:16, 9 February 2006 (UTC).
yes it should be merged, it is a good suggestion
Will the search engine register the new page if "founder effect" is typed in? If not, I am not in favor of merging. "Founder effect" should be searchable independently, because this is most likely the phrase that one would encounter in a paper on a different subject.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.104.149.120 (talk • contribs)
The Wikipedia search engine is the world's worst. It should be an embarrassment to all of us. However, if the merge went through, we can redirect to the correct page.Ted 01:23, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Diagram
Could we perhaps get an explanation of the diagram? I don't know what the dots are supposed to signify. pogo 06:20, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I second that. -Charlie
Still no explanation, so I've removed the illustration. I tried but I fail to see how it illustrates the founder effect. Piet 10:08, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
The diagram is still there, and still unexplained. It at least needs some labels (if it is worth keeping). -Michael
The different dot represent different individual with particular alleles. For example squares could have allele B for gene 1 and circles could have allele A for gene 1. Therefore, a founder population consisting of 5 circles will have lost all genetic divergence for gene 1 (they will all have allele A) as opposed to a founder population consisting of 5 squares (they will all have allele B). Guillaume
[edit] Founder's Effect
NB: This has been written as Founder's Effect, which implies the effect was first thought of by somebody called Founder. This is incorrect; rather the founder refers to the founding members of a population 144.32.128.73 25 Feb 2004
[edit] To do
Notable examples of the founder effect in the human population, which should be researched and written about in this article:
- Finnish men [1]
- Modern-day descendants of Old Testament priests have a remarkably homogeneous distribution of Y chromosomes [2]
- In fact, the single nucleotide polymorphism rate in the entire population of 6 billion humans is only what you would expect from a population (at equilibrium) of about 10,000, since the human population has exploded from that kind of number only recently.
[edit] ernst mayer didn't invent founder theory
He used work by Sewall Wright and others that had been describing founder effect since the 30's atleast, he was the first to fully outline how speciation could occur via the founder effect though, in the paper i corrected to 1952. Heres the reference:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1214177&blobtype=pdf
Templeton, A. R. The theory of speciation via the founder theory. Genetics. 94 (4) pp. 1011-38 (1979).
I don't know who invented the term, possibly Wright but thats just an educated guess
sorry i can't be more help and change the whole thing but am very busy at the moment, will be back in a few months when all is good if i remember and the same statements there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.219.202 (talk) 02:27, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
