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baby William[edit]

The article says, "Mulder is the father (possibly by in vitro fertilisation) of Scully's son William." Can someone cite a reference to the show to support this claim? --Memenen 9 July 2005 11:07 (UTC)

This may be referring to the flashbacks presented in the season 8 episode Per Manum, which introduces Zeus Genetics and Scullys doctor. She was attempting to undergo some sort of fertility treatment in the time frame of those flashbacks (which would have been around season 5) but it also seemed to suggest her efforts were a failure.

Overlaping in the article --Wikinewsblackcat 16:06, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

A recurring theme in the eighth season of "The X-Files" is Scully's uncertainty regarding the identify of her baby's father. (Her greatest fear is that he will be an alien-human hybrid.) In "Per Manum" we learn that she asked Mulder to be her sperm donor. After hesitating, he agreed, saying "I wouldn't want this to come between us", but the result was negative. Enthusiasts of the Mulder-Scully romance (called "shippers" in fan circles)often use the last line of that episode as a springboard for their favorite fantasy: As the agents embrace, Mulder says, "Never give up on a miracle." Scully worries all through her pregnancy that her baby will be normal and 100% human. When William comes out with ten fingers and toes in the season finale, he seems perfect. Scully voices her doubts to Mulder only after the boy is born. Mulder says to Scully as he holds William, "The truth we both know," sealing it with a very tender, unpartnerlike kiss on Scully's lips. Mulder status as William's father is inferred by the diologue and emphasized by the body language of the actors. What's never made clear is whether the pair had consummated their physical relationship to achieve Scully's pregnancy or whether the original test issued a false negative. Mulder never married and Scully's baby was implanetd by alien's in the third season Mulder never dated Scully I don't know how that got to be but i'm a big supporter of the X-files and i've like seen almost every episode and not once did it mention Mulder being the father of Scull'y baby.

14.07.09 "I don't know how that got to be but i'm a big supporter of the X-files and i've like seen almost every episode and not once did it mention Mulder being the father of Scull'y baby"

Can't have watched very carefully can you? William being Mulder's son is frequently referenced to in the final episode. Just off the top of my head:

Guard: "What are you thinking about?" Mulder: "My son. His mother."

Scully: "Our son, Mulder ...I gave him up. Our son. I was so afraid you could never forgive me."

Not to mention the meaningful looks that Mulder and Scully give each other when the officiator at the hearing asks, "Agent Scully, isn't it true that you and Mulder were lovers, and you got pregnant and had his love child?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.134.130 (talk) 19:03, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Education[edit]

It is not possible to graduate 'summa cum laude' from Oxford University, as British universities in general, and Oxford in particular, do not assign grades in this manner. Did he perhaps graduate with a 'First Class Degree'?

Correct me if I'm wrong (I often am!), but don't the Oxbridge universities award 'double firsts', as well? If there's specific reference to Mulder being 'top of his class' (I'll keep an ear out in re-watching the episodes in case it does), then it'd imply he achieved one of these, wouldn't it? GRAPPLE X 19:35, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

A 'double first' isn't technically a degree class, it just means you were awarded first class honours in both your second and third year exams (the years in which you're tested) - so you received 2 firsts, rather than something higher than a first.

big cleanup edits[edit]

I'm doing some major cleanup on this page - taking out unnecessary info, organizing it better, referencing things that should be referenced. I'm not finished (currently have only done "Personality" and "Trivia" sections), but let me know if you disagree with any of my cuts. I just think in general this (and most of the other X-Files character pages) have veered from "useful encyclopedia article" - something helpful to both newcomers and fans - to "dumping page for arcane and oblique facts". Not to mention a lot of it was incorrect or misleading.

I also plan to make more consistent headings - a "Family and Relationships" section that will include parts of the current "Family and early life" section, as well as summaries of his relationships with friends and women - which were scattered all around in other places.

--Frey 01:28, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

edits done![edit]

The edits are done, for the most part. Any comments or criticism, please speak up!

Frey 06:34, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi I just watched an episode today "Travellers" Season 5 and its set in 1990 and shows Fox wearing a wedding ring - do you have any background on him being married ?


Edit to Remove active personal phone number. --68.46.185.58 20:05, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Quote 22 is pretty outdated because there are episode in which mulder sleeps in his bed (e.g. that episode where he experiences the same day over and over again (bank robbery). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.44.196.146 (talk) 23:59, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Am I Mulder?[edit]

Strangely, I was born on October 18, 1961, am 170 pounds and about 6 feet tall, and graduated from Martha's Vineyard Regional High School (where all Chilmark children attended high school).

I graduated in the top ten percent of my class (only 125 kids in the class of 1979), and I don't remember seeing him. Maybe I'm Mulder... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Actiscenei (talkcontribs) 16:39, 10 February 2007 (UTC).

Nope because Mulder was born on October 13, 1961. Marikology 19:28, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

One of the unofficial "FBI advisers" that the character is based on has a website (I got this information from a source that will remain unnamed) Weird Story.orgOddly enough His birthday is 13,October 1961. As the site develops it may be interesting to see the correlations between the show and the content of his site.Myraedison 00:34, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

...loss of virginity?[edit]

From the trivia: "Mulder lost his virginity at the age of 29." Anyone have a source of that? While I'm not the biggest X-Phile, and I haven't really seen that many episodes, I've never seen it mentioned anywhere else and it does sound slightly like vandalism. 13:21, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Considering all the porn he has, I'd suspect he's still a virgin, even when he donated his semen to Scully.--cw1925 19:37, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I can't remember the episode it's in, but there's an early series episode where a guy can start fires with his mind, and Mulder & Scully are joined by an English woman that knew Mulder at Oxford. There's one bit where she reminds him of 'what they did on top of Arthur COnan Doyle's grave' and the episode implies they used to have sex. 62.136.5.62 23:29, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

the episode you're talking about is "Fire" and there is no dialogue that indicates Mulder lost his virginity at that time. The character simply references a "certain youthful indiscretion." Marikology 04:56, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Didn't Mulder have Sex with Kristin in "3"?
vanbauseneick 11:39, 30 March 2008 (CET)

Other Family Members[edit]

Just wanted to mention that just because Mulder mentioned his uncle ("Humbug"), albeit very loosely, this does not warrant an entire article.--cw1925 19:39, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Married[edit]

Mulder wears a wedding ring in the episode "Travelers", could this mean he was married? Maybe the writers were going to elaborate on it in later episodes but just decided not to. I don;t know if this is already mentioned somehwere in another episode, if so, reply :)

The only reason Mulder is wearing the ring is because David Duchvony had recently gotten married and purposfully didn't take it off, presumably just to see what people would say. However, the show never elaborated on to whom Mulder was married; most fans assume it was Diana Fowley.
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Sister disappered in Chilmakr, MA or Lake Okoboji, IA?[edit]

The article said Chilmark, but many times the series says Okoboji. I changed it to the latter but would like to know what others who are better informed believe. Interlingua 20:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

I just watched the episode "Conduit," which takes place in part at Lake Okoboji, and do not recall any reference to Samantha Mulder's abduction having taken place there. I searched all 9 season's transcripts online for references to the lake and found only two episodes, "Conduit" and "E.B.E," that make reference to it and in neither case is it stated that Samantha was abducted there. Owlieo (talk) 03:55, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Paper Hearts definitively states where she was abducted, and although it escapes me exactly where, it was definitely not Lake Okoboji - Mulder brings a man who claims to have abducted Samantha to a house in Martha's Vineyard, where he explains how it was done. Mulder then reveals that this was a different house to the one the abduction occured in, which would imply the two are similar enough for the trick to work. I can rewatch the episode for specifics, but on that alone I'd imagine it's safe to say it was somewhere in the Martha's Vineyard region. GRAPPLE X 19:40, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

A source that can be used Truth Is Out There: The Official Guide to the X Files[edit]

There is a book called Truth Is Out There: The Official Guide to the X Files by Brian Lowry. If you need more X-Files information (especially about development of episodes), get the book and cite it. WhisperToMe (talk) 05:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Why Carter called him 'Fox'[edit]

Years ago I read somewhere (I can't remember where) that the first namens of siblings Mulder add up to Samantha Fox - that was supposed to be the reason for Carter calling Mulder 'Fox'.
vanbauseneick 11:44, 30 March 2008 (CET)

No, he said in an interview that he went to school with a kid named Fox and thought it was a really cool name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.165.8 (talk) 03:28, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Trivia[edit]

How about mentioning his statement about "Plan Nine from Outer Space" as being so off-logic that it shuts down the logic center of his brain and allows him to make intuitive leaps of reasoning? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.235.75.151 (talk) 03:22, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Unprofessional Justification for Interpreting Mulder's Dreams as False[edit]

Though this might be explained that it was only a dream and we all know how things in dreams are warped.

This is the quote from the page. It is located in Mulder's biography under Early Life. If this is acceptable, then I am sorry for posting this 'complaint.' Though I, in an amateur attempt at quality assurance, would submit the arguement that this should be edited; though I will not comment on how this should be done.

Death?[edit]

What about including some of the details of his death? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.217.181.54 (talk) 07:07, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Religion?[edit]

I just watched the episode "Conduit" and the scene at the end where Mulder is in the Church looks like a Catholic Church to me, though the article states that the character is Christian, not Catholic. Is there any evidence other than this episode for that characterization?76.228.227.176 (talk) 07:51, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

There's also evidence, most notably in "Drive", that he's Jewish, so it's really up in the air.--Gen. Quon (talk) 14:20, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
There is an episode that deals specifically with Jewish mythology in which Mulder is highly sympathetic but in which it seems ridiculous that he would not mention that he was Jewish, if he actually was. The episode where the Neo-Nazi comments that he "looks like one" (or something to that effect) was deliberately included by the actor, who is from a Jewish background. Mulder seems to be, by default, from a protestant background, albeit (certainly at the beginning of the series) an atheist himself. Just look at the scenes in his parents' house, no evidence anywhere of the trappings of Catholicism to suggest otherwise and certainly no evidence that his parents are Jewish either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1B8:10:14:0:0:0:FEED (talk) 10:43, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Regarding Duchovny's "I'm the conduit..." quote in the Reception section[edit]

The article informs us that he says this while "talking about his success portraying Fox Mulder." However, if you look at the BBC article that has been referenced as the source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/1337569.stm) as well as this other piece here (http://www.beyondthesea.it/news.asp?id=301), it appears that he's talking about his roles in general or perhaps more specifically about his character in Red Shoe Diaries. TathD (talk) 14:28, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Oxford college[edit]

The fact that Mulder studied at Oxford comes up now and again, and there is that one terrible episode ("fire" I think) where somebody he knew at university shows up. But is it ever mentioned which particular college Mulder studied at? Check out some other famous Oxford alumni (or talk to anyone who went to Oxford) and you'll see that this is quite an important detail. Then again, another thing that the episode "fire" shows is the extremely poor level of research done into all things British including, bizarrely, the accents!

Smoking[edit]

I'm not sure when Mulder quit smoking -- sometime after the period of the flashbacks in the baseball episode and before the pilot -- but the subject comes up, most notably in "Brand X", if I remember correctly. Anyone here know more about his habit than what I've mentioned?

Thematically, there's a case to be made for Mulder's quitting being something that separates him from his biological father, Smoking Man; and the attendant "smokers are villains" trope ... but there's no way the writers had that in mind. More a post-structural assessment, which would be independent research unless someone can find an academic paper on the topic. That's just an aside, though.

Also, I always thought Mulder chewed sunflower seeds to deal with the cravings. That quote from Duchovny in the article mentions the seeds being related to an oral fixation, but not specifically related to quitting smoking.

Thoughts? Anyone want to start a dialogue about this? I'm feeling like I should watch the series again anyway, and I'll take notes on anything related to Mulder and smoking. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nice ass samson (talkcontribs) 19:58, 15 June 2014 (UTC)