Talk:Francis Drake

Uncle

The word "uncle" appears in the text. I am not sure that this is correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.82.116.138 (talk) 16:44, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

"Uncle" has now gone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.142.211 (talk) 11:41, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Sources of slaves

According to the article

Hawkins' own account of his actions (in which Drake took part) cites two sources for their victims. One was military attacks on African towns and villages (with the assistance of rival African warlords).

What is the other source?

Top.Squark (talk) 17:09, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Portuguese slave ships. Have added this. Ackees (talk) 13:45, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

is there a citation for this information? Thozza (talk) 17:43, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

What confirmation is there of that single source cited in note 30, as to Drake's having been "a slaver"? That source was written a long time after Drake. Someone must have looked all this up since, source-checking, and written about it? Drake must have had plenty of enemies. Kessler (talk) 02:03, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

See [1] also for sources. Dougweller (talk) 07:25, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

sir frances drake

do you think that sir frances drake affected todays life in any way?no way are you jocking Why do you think he did what he did. Do you think he was obligated to do what he did. Do you think he loved the queen of england?? Teacherquestions.org. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.219.98.226 (talk) 01:37, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Semi Protection is FULL OF FAIL and AIDS. :)

I wanted to bracket Isthmus which is mentioned in his 'first victory' section as it is a word I have never come across, and I like to consider myself very well educated at the best of times, but as a lan' lubbar it was foreign to me. There's a wiki article detailing it, can someone link the word up with brackets? Also, to the mod / admin who's semi protected this, wtf is with 99% of wiki being all semi protected since it went all ugly and lame? Sucks man. BaSH PR0MPT (talk) 13:56, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Sir Frances Drake

does any one know what the main purpose of sir francis drake's journey was? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Countyguy (talk • contribs) 05:31, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Monetary Conversion

"a reward of 20,000 ducats,[3] about £4,000,000 (US$6.5M) by modern standards, for his life." I would like to know how did the author arrived at this conversion; where is the source for this info? THanks for the help. 64.237.145.186 (talk) 11:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC) 'I Would like to see maps of his journey. Like a map of the path he took and the map should show the whole world not just North America, please. -Help from a girl in School —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.241.237.160 (talk) 23:31, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Term 'Pirate' is incorrectly applied to Drake

Drake was sponsored by the Queen and operating on behalf of Britain ad within its laws and as such, he was not a Pirate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.63.61.161 (talk) 22:16, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

That's true; as far as the English were concerned Drake was a type of privateer. However, the Spanish never recognized him as a legitimate agent of the British crown and so labeled him a pirate, a charge Britain was unwilling to dispute since it would mean they would be liable for Drake's provocations. Therefore it's perfectly reasonable to term Francis Drake a pirate, as he was generally considered one by everyone but Britain. The Cap'n (talk) 16:55, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

This is a minefield. There was no such country as Britain for most of his life (what a howler!). What everyone except England thought of him is indeterminable, since large parts of the world would never have heard of him, and I am not aware that even European countries which had heard of him formed a definitvie view. PatGallacher (talk) 13:42, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

He attacked Spanish fleets during times of peace between England and Castille/Aragon/whatever, which makes him a pirate. While it’s true that he was financed by the English nobility, it doesn’t make him any less of a pirate. And what does it matter what view other countries had of him? That’s like saying Osama Bin Laden wasn’t a terrorist just because some people don’t know of him. I’m pretty sure any country would have called him a pirate if he attacked their ships during peacetime between the respective country and England. Derpherp 24 oct 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.83.1.165 (talk) 12:20, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Drake and his "secret voyage" north to Chatham Strait

Having read Bawlf's book, I can tell you this is entirely speculation on his part. Can anyone find a source that proves he actually reached this far north (Chatham Strait)? Seeing as how this came completely out of Bawlf's imagination, I'm doubtful any such sources will be surfacing anytime soon. I'll be removing the statement in a few days if no one comes forward. BlankSpace79 (talk) 06:13, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I would concur that this should get pulled out. Shouldn't all the discussion of New Albion theories go to the New Albion page? Whale Cove, Oregon; Nehalem Bay, Oregon and British Columbia could all be pulled. All that needs to go on the Francis Drake page is a statement about "the generally accepted location of Drake's New Albion is Drakes Bay, California, although nearly a score of other notions have been offered." MikeVdP (talk) 00:20, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Pulled this out -- full discussion is on the New Albion article MikeVdP (talk) 19:01, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Birth date confusion and contradiction.

The paragraph on his age starts saying he's born in 1544 at the earliest, then says possibly 1535 or 1542, but continues referring back to "the 1540 date" that hasn't been mentioned. So I assume "the earliest" should be "the latest" [as he cannot be less than 17 years old in command of a vessel], and the "the 1540 date" passage ripe for rewriting? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.246.115 (talk) 19:29, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Drake-Norris expedition to Corruna

12,000 men lost in 20 ships (thus on average 600 men per ship lost)seems very improbable considering the size of the ships. They were nowhere near as big as Nelsons ships and were unlikely to be lost with all hands. And if they had been it would have been a notable naval catastophe and it isnt. Has anyone got more reliable information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.84.252 (talk) 22:32, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 26 October 2011

Under Sailing Career, third paragraph, first sentence: In 1572 "that" he embarked . . . "that" is not correct.

Grancafe (talk) 02:29, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks for pointing that out. – Luna Santin (talk) 04:13, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 29 October 2011

"is a rare documented survivor among sixteen-century jewels" should be "is a rare documented survivor among sixteenth-century jewels"

98.247.55.10 (talk) 18:41, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Done. Thanks! Favonian (talk) 18:44, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

What?

Do you see the typo in the artical — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dubersmakel (talk • contribs) 23:45, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

dupe

Adding Sir Francis Drake's raid on St. Augustine

I'd like to add a small narrative about Sir Francis Drakes raid and sacking of St. Augustine in June of 1568. Also a small link to our Florida History Timeline at 1586 Would that be okay?--Ourhistory153 (talk) 18:06, 29 January 2012 (UTC)