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Prologue[edit]

Note from Al Hembd: There are some gross inaccuracies in numbers of membership that need to be amended. There is no way there could be 2,000 communicants, and 6,000 adherents in the FP Church in Scotland. At maximum, there could only be 1,500 in attendance total in Britain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.173.55.194 (talk) 03:33, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that I don't know where to post this or how this change should be requested but I noticed that the picture of the church you give for Staffin is in fact the church for the Free Church of Scotland. Just thought you should be aware of the mistake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.188.208.215 (talk) 20:34, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have reverted some deletions of additions I made a while ago. My additions seemed quite reasonable to me, if anyone disagrees please explain here. PatGallacher 12:26, 2005 Feb 14 (UTC)

What does "relaxing the stringency of subscription to the confession" mean? Also, the third para in the article seems to say that the Free Church of Scotland was formed from members of the Free Church of Scotland. Or am I reading it wrongly? Tiles 06:22, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

"relaxing the stringency of subscription to the confession" refers to how much of the Westminster Confession of Faith office-bearers have to agree with. I will clarify the third paragraph so that it makes more sense to the uninitiated :-) . --PeterR 12:42, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I question this Dutch link, I don't speak Dutch, but it looks like a fairly lengthy article, probably a reference to the Reformed churches in the Netherlands generally. The link should be moved to the English article on Presbyterianism or something like that. Also, I still think we should say something about John MacLeod, even if his relationship with the church was more ambiguous than may believe. PatGallacher 01:25, 2005 Mar 14 (UTC)

The link looks reasonable as the article is about a small offshoot of the established Dutch Reformed Church (the bevindelijke gereformeerden) and specifically refers to its similarity with, among others, the Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland as follows::

"De bevindelijke gereformeerden vertonen sterke verwantschap in leer en leven met de zogenoemde Strict Baptist in de engelstalige wereld. In Schotland hebben de leden van de Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland soortgelijke opvattingen."

Roughly translated it means "the bevindelijke gerereformeerden (sect) exhibit a strong affinity in learning and life with the so-called Strict Baptist in the English speaking world. In Scotland, the the members of the Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland have similar concepts. Tiles 05:01, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Category change: I have removed this page from the "King James Only Movement" page as the FP Church of Scotland has nothing to do with (and never has had) the King James Only Movement. The FP Church simply views the KJV as the best version available at this time, and therefore holds that other versions should not be used instead of it during ordinary worship. - FinlayC, Feb 22 '06

Photo[edit]

During my last photo trip to Glasgow, I took a (not terribly good) picture of St. Jude's Free Presbyterian church on Woodlands Road. I was labouring under the impression that this was an important building in the church heirarchy (if memory serves, it was where Lord MacKay's hearing was conducted) but the signage outside doesn't indicate that it's anything more than an ordinary parish church. Should I upload this picture? If St. Jude's isn't important, where is? (There's a church on the mound that I seem to remember holding church-wide assemblies of some type). -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 09:58, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

This is quite possibly it's only church in Glasgow, it's probably about as important as any, feel free to add the photo. PatGallacher 12:35, 2005 August 18 (UTC)

Finlay - you are indeed correct that St Jude's does have some significance - this building is the address you would write to if you wished to contact the denomination, as it maintains a (very small) administrative office there; it is also the address of the FP Bookroom and FP Publications. The denomination has an annual "Synod" in May, where the other Presbyterian churches have a "General Assembly", and this alternates between their Glasgow church building and their Inverness church building.--PeterR 19:16, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The split[edit]

Neither this article nor the one on the APC makes it clear which group took what stance over the controversy about Lord Mackay's actions. 193.63.239.165 15:39, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a few lines to the Associated Presbyterian Churches article to broadly explain this. --PeterR 18:18, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vs. Ulster[edit]

Opposition to Roman Catholicism "is perhaps voiced in a different style"? This is enough to pique my curiosity, but not to satisfy it. Carolynparrishfan 18:08, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was me who used these words. However since I don't fully understand the Northern Irish situation I'd prefer not to elaborate in such a way as might turn out to be inaccurate or unsubstantiable. However here are two examples: any kind of Orangeism and similar manifestations would probably be absent at least amongst communicant members in the Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland, and I'm pretty certain FPC of S ministers are not allowed to take political office (I could verify this). --PeterR 18:14, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bookroom[edit]

My recent perusal of the FP bookroom showed that of the some 97 shelves of the bookroom, less than 2 are devoted to anti-RC polemical material. It is thus misleading of the earlier version of the article to draw attention to this material as if it were a primary feature of the bookroom.

In any case, wikipedia articles should only include verifiable material, which is NPOV and which does not constitute original research. As such, before any statement can be included specifying that the bookroom contains large amounts of anti-RC material, an appropriate proof for this statement must be given.

Obviously no such proof can be forthcoming, since the statement is false.

Cf. also the bookroom's webpage, which shows quite clearly that only a small % of its stock is anti-RC polemical material: http://www.fpbookroom.org. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 149.254.200.222 (talk) 16:29, 19 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]