Talk:Freedom of the press in Russia
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"The great Internet firewall of Russia"?
Starting from the Spring of 2010 all Russian ISPs are monitoring Internet traffic of Russian residents and blocking access to websites from a "blacklist" passed down to them by government by replacing actual server responses with fake "404", "wrong Apache configuration", "Sedo parking" etc. pages (until August 2010 they were blocked by redirecting to Google or Yandex search engines). The problem is all Russian media agencies were silenced down and the launch of what de-facto is an analog of Chinese or Australian Internet firewalls was never reported in any "reliable source" as per terms of Wikipedia. This is a rather odd situation, since I can confirm existence of that Internet shield in Russia by simply typing addresses in my web browser (and everybody outside of Russia by using any Russian proxy server, like http://www.anonymizer.ru/), and then trying to access the same web sites via any proxy not located in Russia. I don't think some unknown guy like me posting screenshots would be enough for a reliable source for Wikipedia, though.
So, can somebody with more experience suggest how to add/deal with this information? The Internet shield was in operation for more than half a year and spans the entire country, so I think it's by far more important information related to censorship in Russia than currently included info on some separate ISP blocking a few sites just for several days. As to blocked websites, example addresses can be easily found in "blacklists" of other countries, e.g. that of Sweden: http://www.lapsiporno.info/blocked.glocalnet (bikini-pics dot us, cute-kitten dot com and many others will show you fake "403 Apache server errors" for any user navigating via a Russian ISP).
Or, is there some web service for recording current state of websites depending on IP that we could use to refer to (by screenshots or whatever other way), to illustrate that there indeed is official Internet shield in the country? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 18:14, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
There is no right
The Constitutional speech freedom norm guarantees the freedom of ideas and speech for everyone, as well as the right "to freely look for, receive, transmit, produce and distribute information by any legal way". End of citing.
Speech freedom in Russia is privilege, not right. Since 'by any legal way' means that goverment can freely pass appropriate law to restrict the freedom. One of such silly law is "On mass media".
- Maybe there's no priviledge but voluntary rejection of natural rights by some citizens themselves, multiplied by freaky interpreting the same rights by others? In any case claims like "authorities restrict somebody's freedom of speech" cause several other thoughts like "What law allows him/her express this opinion except of freedom" and "what has this one done him/herself against this trend expect of helpless shouts of ostrich's head hidden into the sand?". However, nothing encyclopedic is to appear in this thread.--220.127.116.11 (talk) 10:25, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Hijacking of Censorship in Russia Article
The original article was about censorship in Russia. Somehow it got transformed into this Freedom of the Press article. Could we split that into its own article, and go back to the original topic which was about censorship. There is way too much POV in here. After reading what's here it is obvious there is no censorship and never has been in Russia in any shape and all reports that say otherwise are lies of foreign governments or anti-Russian organizations. Cheers! Meishern (talk) 11:06, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
- I tried to at least remove long and partly irrelevant quotations/opinion pieces, but was immediately reverted  without response to my comment . There is no way to edit anything related to Russian government. This is all collectively owned. Biophys (talk) 13:44, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with you. This articles is a bag of POV spin and propaganda. Yet I have no desire to again get into massive edit wars with such a collective since the end result would be their victory and months of my time wasted. Its 'vandal gangs' such at this which got me to the point of virtually completely stopping all my editing. There were no gulags, Stalin was the kind father, and blah blah... Cheers! Meishern (talk) 12:48, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
I've removed the Russia Today news template from the page, as it had raised concern because it pointed to a single trending news page, rather than a selection of trend pages, and after discussion in the appropriate places, it's easier to remove it than it is to add lots of other trend pages, as I don't know of any (don't have time to look). If there are any comments, concerns, or suggestions please reply on my talkpage, as I don't watch this page. Penyulap ☏ 02:37, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
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This redirects here, but I think we need a better article. At the very least, a disambig pointing here and to Internet censorship in Russia seems in order. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:10, 17 March 2014 (UTC)