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Plagiarism[edit]

There should be mentioning of his plagiarism. Someone963852 (talk) 00:39, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

It was mentioned before, but not sourced, which is probably why it got removed.... SKS (talk) 00:42, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind. Someone added it. Someone963852 (talk) 00:49, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

The article.[edit]

A few editors, including myself, have repeatedly removed the long list of awards/achievements for the following reasons:

  1. It's trivial, especially stuff like winning the "Mobile Ranking" on a weekly music show.
  2. It's unsourced.
  3. It's really messy and hard to sort out what is what.
  4. It should belong on the Big Bang article, not this one.

However, it seems that other editors disagree, as they have repeatedly inserted this list over and over and over and over.... I'll revert it once more, but I don't want to push WP:3RR, so yeah.... Oh, and that controversy section needs to stay. It's pretty major, and it's sourced.

So, thoughts? SKS (talk) 21:42, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I 100% agree that the controversy section should stay in, which is why I added it in the first place. I don't know why random fangirls are deleting it, ignorance to the truth doesn't make it any better. Weekly 'awards' such as Inkigayo mutizens, mnet countdown, music bank wins, etc, are irrelevant and should not be included. Cyworld monthly music awards are decent, and major awards such as end of the year awards should be added, only if they refer specifically to G-Dragon himself, and not Big Bang.

SpikeNeedle (talk) 21:46, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, someone's gone and undid my changes, even though I also added sources and the like. So yeah, I don't know what to do at this point. SKS (talk) 23:41, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Theres really two editors who are reverting the article back to fangirl heaven, thats Marbles and a 142.157.208.164 . Despite that, I hope other editors who are reading this can pick up on the tips and edit appropriately. NPeeerbvsesz (Push) 20:02, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I cited and provided all the references and someone is still erasing all the "facts". After reading your comments, I have erased the awards that are not as significant I guess. But I can definitely cite for all those facts as well. Instead of erasing the facts every 5 minutes, would you "editors" please read G-Dragon's wikipedia and tell me what is wrong with it? I would appreciate it very much. Cheers. Marbles1111 (talk)

  1. Right now, many parts of the article are worded in such a way that violate Wikipedia's policy on having neutral content. It says things like "G-Dragon is a fashionista" and "G-Dragon is innovative" and he's created "numerous hit songs". Not neutral. Your edits make this page appear to be more of a fansite or official website biography.
  2. There are unacceptable sources. As I noted on your talk page, Wikipedia requires reliable sources. This includes magazine articles, news articles, and the like. It does NOT include blogs or fansites or forums (so allkpop and k-bites do not count).
  3. The listing of all his collaborations falls under trivia, as none of these collaborations are necessarily notable.
This is why your edits keep being undone (although this time I think it doesn't need to be). I have left numerous messages on your talk page and on this talk page as well stating what the problems were. I know that you have good intentions and want to help out, but please remember that this page isn't here to make G-Dragon look good or show him in a positive light. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia. SKS (talk) 22:16, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


I can actually cite the sources for words to describe him as "fashionista" as there were many articles about it. I erased the biography part as it was almost the same as the one above it. I think more information should be added, but it looks okay. But you should also note that there were people with bad intentions who were erasing the facts as well. I don't think it was you but someone was erasing all the information and added ridiculous stuff without even citing. I want you to know that that was how it was before you became one of the editors of this wikipedia. For the reference, I will try to find more reliable sources. I'm sure you have good intentions as well. Thanks for explaining. Marbles1111 (Marbles1111)

Bringing fashion style here[edit]

From his debut, G-Dragon has drawn attention from many through his sense of fashion. He usually wears London street fashion, and likes to have unique accessories to accompany his style. In his recent interview with YG Bounce, he said, "By the time others imitate my style, I would be in a different appearance. It is not fun to look the same like others. Because I don’t want to be the same, I think over and over to look unique". G-Dragon is not just interested in fashion, but he is passionate in collecting information over the internet and thinking over it. In Big Bang (band)'s autobiography, he wrote, "For me, my fashion is not merely of clothes nor brands, but are wings to describe my identity. If music is the energy to drive myself, clothes are the sources which I can expand myself upon. If time permits, I want to work in the fashion industry one day while I write my songs; from time to time, I design my own clothes."
He also has two tattoos on each of his inner arms, the Italian words "La dolce vita", "the sweet life" and "moderato", "moderate" but which also can refer to a music tempo. The tattoos were done by artist Pink's husband Carey Hart in May 2007.
In the music video of Big Bang's single "Dirty Cash" and in their "The Real DVD photobook", another two tattoos could be spotted but those were only temporary henna tattoos.

If anyone can retouch it and add sources, itll be ready to go back into the main article--NPeeerbvsesz (Push) 11:52, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

News[edit]

On a Korean Show he admitted that he is Bi sexual. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.195.26.116 (talk) 22:05, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Do you have a source? Like, which Korean show was it? SKS (talk) 22:24, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
I doubt it. Knowing fangirls, they probably would've been all over this as well as those blogs. AhnSoonKyung (talk) 01:23, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
This went pretty crazy when it aired. But not much news no, try Hankooki. Ohlly (talk) 17:11, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:G-Dragon/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Adabow (talk · contribs) 21:55, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

  • Some dab links and a dodgy EL Adabow (talk · contribs) 21:55, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
      • Fixed all the disambiguation page, also took out the YG Bounce source. As for YesAsia, I think it's a reliable source. It's similar to Amazon.com and has information regarding the album. I take it its reviews are biased, but that's why I didn't use the review on the page and only took the part about its musical genre. AhnSoonKyung (talk) 13:30, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
        • [1] is broken. Adabow (talk · contribs) 00:59, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
        • It's broken? Really? Because I can access it. O.o And I will work on the article this weekend because I have many things to catch up on. Just letting you know. :D AhnSoonKyung (talk) 14:21, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Lead[edit]

  • If you cannot find any other free image, crop File:Big Bang In Thailand.JPG
    • Cropped it and upload it.
  • Can you merge the infoboxes somehow? Does the Korean one have custom parameters?
    • Unfortunately Korean does not have one.
  • The lead needs expanding to encompass all sections
    • Expanded it as much as I could. Please note that it is not sourced because most of the sourcing are within the articles. If this has to be change, please note me.

2000–2009: Early life and debut with Big Bang[edit]

  • Where/when was he born?
    • Included it in.
  • "G-Dragon first caught the interest of Sean of the hip-hop duo Jinusean from YG Entertainment, who later recommended him to CEO Yang Hyun Suk" - Is there a date/year that this happened? Jinusean mentions no "Sean".
    • No mentions of the year in the sources, but it does said when he was 13. The article does mention Sean (his name is in the history section).
  • "G-Dragon spent the first year cleaning after the other artists in the record label." - do you mean cleaning a building? Explain further
    • Oops!! Fixed it!!
  • Why aren't "La La La" and "We Belong Together" given in Korean?
    • Names that are given in Korean are only for songs whose titles were originally release in Korean but translated to English. "La La La" and "We Belong Together" were originally release as English title songs.

2009–present: Solo and career development[edit]

  • File:G-Dragon Heartbreaker.ogg needs to be reduced in quality. The sample's caption says "Despite becoming a chart-topper" - how would that have any impact on the controversy?
    • Took that part out.
  • Link Mnet Asian Music Awards
    • Done so.
  • Top 20 → top twenty
    • Done so.
  • "YG Entertainment announced G-Dragon and bandmate T.O.P would release a collaboration album" - past tense, please
    • Fixed it, but please check as I tend to have problems with my past-present tense. :)
  • broad-casted → broadcast
    • Done so.
  • "The singles were commercial successes: "High High" was a chartopper while "Oh Yeah" and "Knock Out" both peaked at #2 and #3 respectively" - what chart(s)? Also #2 → number two and #3 → number three
    • Changed it. To note, on a another article, I originally wrote chartings out as number three, number two and so on, but was told by an editor to make it #3 and #2 so I was just wondering if there is any rules of thumb about it?
  • "noting how he would "changed many things" - would → had
    • Done so
  • "and debuted at number one" on what?
    • Added in the Gaon Chart (the official Korean chart)

Image and artistry[edit]

  • Link hip-hop to hip-hop music
  • "G-Dragon incorporated a mix of dance, hip-hop, and R&B songs into his debut solo album" → G-Dragon incorporated a mix of dance, hip-hop, and R&B songs into his debut solo album, Heartbreaker
    • Done so
  • R&B can be linked earlier, and should be linked to contemporary R&B
    • Done so
  • "Preferring to penned lyrics that "sound[s] like an actual story,"" → Preferring to pen lyrics that "sound like an actual story,"
    • Done so
  • "and "Heartbreaker" and "Butterfly, the latter two for his own solo effort." → and "Heartbreaker" and "Butterfly, which he performed independently
  • Done so

Controversy[edit]

  • This section would be better merged into career
    • Merged it
  • "However, EMI, who also has rights to "Right Round" said that they" → However, EMI, the record label that distributed "Right Round", said that they
    • Done so

Awards[edit]

  • Also include any awards that he was nominated for, but lost
    • Unfortunately the South Korea industry mostly concentrate on winners so I could not find a reliable source on his nominations.

References[edit]

  • Dates should be formatted consistently, ie either yyyy-mm-dd or Month day, year
    • Changed them
  • Only print sources (ie magazines/newspapers) should be italicised
    • Changed it
  • Remove the succession boxes, more relevant to the album article
    • Removed it

Summary[edit]

Good work, I'll place the review on hold now. Adabow (talk · contribs) 00:59, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

    • I did all that was asked, and hopefully a bit more. Do look it over for corrections. If anything else needs to be change, please note me. Thank you. AhnSoonKyung (talk) 16:08, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
      • OK, it seems to be up to standard now. Just a note – references in English do not need marking so, as it is assumed that refs are English unless otherwise stated. Adabow (talk · contribs) 01:26, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

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please stop removing marijuana section[edit]

fan girls/boys are at it again. please stop. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Booyahshakashogun (talkcontribs) 05:49, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

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Twitter[edit]

I tried editing in GD's twitter but I kept getting errors as a result. His twitter link is http://twitter.com/IBGDRGN just so you know. Tibbydibby (talk) 17:23, 25 July 2012 (UTC)