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Name[edit]

Talk:GSN (Game Show Network)GSN (Game Show Network)Game Show Network – {Game Show Network is still their official name, used on legal documents; HBO had renamed its page Home Box Office, and UPS is still callled the United Parcel Service, so obiously, based on what I had said, the "Game Show Network" isin't entirely gone from the media, so why figure?} — Roadrunner3000 00:34, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This article has been renamed after the result of a move request. violet/riga (t) 11:34, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Page move[edit]

See Talk:GSN 66.32.197.148 22:13, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

No. I think legal names are represented for articles, like United Parcel Service (UPS), Home Box Office (HBO), Turner Network Television (TNT), National Basketball Association (NBA), all of that stuff; why don't you rename Turner Network Television TNT then!--Roadrunner3000 03:54, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

I've removed this page's entry from Wikipedia:Requested moves due to a lack of consensus on the move. If this changes, feel free to add another request. —Cleared as filed. 14:47, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Credit cutting[edit]

I remember reading a GSN post once where they talked about a CBS-affiliate cutting to a noonhour newscast everyday before the end of the credits of The Price Is Right. A poster said that the affiliate cannot do that. Something about production unions.

Also, every other U.S. network (cable or broadcast) airs the entire credits of shows that have credits, and do not cut them off in any way. This has always been the case. Every television network wants to make the most money possible, and the time used for credits could be used for advertising. But it isn't, and why is that? It seems like there is some obligation somewhere. Every other network would want to get rid of credits since they waste time, but they aren't, and there is some reason for that... What makes GSN different?--PsychoJason 02:38, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Let's not forget that GSN does "box out" their credits for advertising. I HATE that. I just HATE IT! Why do they do it? 206.211.69.253 17:53, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Pretty much all networks squish the credits under commercials, but GSN is certainly one of the worst offenders. You'd practically have to have HDTV to read them in that tiny box. The next worse is SciFi, where they put them in about a 1-inch-wide strip on the left, and most of it gets cut off in the overscan. However, I've never noticed GSN cut the credits out. They're practically doing that already and not getting in trouble with any unions, so I don't see why it would make any sense to go through whatever lawsuits the production unions would throw at them just so the commercials can be 3% bigger. But I have seen stupider things, so I can't guarantee it. CrossEyed7 13:03, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

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Does anybody have a good graphical image of the original "Winnie" logo? I took a photo of my logo magnet, but it really looks like crap. 100px Lambertman 17:32, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

This URL has it, it's just in black and white unfortunately. It is a PDF file. [1] --TRAiNER4 TC 18:51, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
What did the first Game Show Originals look like with that first logo, or did they? King Shadeed 13:28, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't think they had any originals before 1997  — JT (TRAiNER4)  [T·C·E] 18:54, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Casey Abell's comment needs more clarification[edit]

Casey Abell says that this network is about adult games. However, I watched this network when I was 14-15 years old. Please clarify further. Georgia guy 19:58, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Already clarified my comment in the textual note. Of course, GSN is watched by some kids and teens. But GSN's game shows are intended primarily for adults, unlike the shows on Nick GAS. In fact, GSN's audience skews substantially older than the usual audience for U.S. networks. Casey Abell 23:15, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Wrong. As usual. But Casey never will admit to being wrong. Casey, when you're ready to back up your claim with some actual evidence, I'd like to see it. Modor 10:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)Modor

At least Modor softened his initial comment. [2] Maybe those civility warnings on his talk page are having some effect. Anyway, it's not hard to find a great deal of evidence for GSN's older skew. For a typical treatment of the issue, see this article written when Rich Cronin took over the network. Despite Cronin's efforts the network has continued to skew old, as mentioned in this recent USA Today article that commented: "Cable networks Fox News, Hallmark, CNN and GSN had the oldest viewership, each with a median age of more than 60 in prime time."

Recent changes[edit]

The "Recent changes" section is getting awful long. The major trend at the network – the return to an almost all-traditional game show lineup, plus some poker and blackjack shows and a few documentaries – is getting lost in a sea of this-show-came-on-and-that-show-went-off detail. I'd like to boil it down, but I don't want to lose valuable detail about the network's history. Still, we shouldn't let the section grow much longer before we simplify and rewrite it. Casey Abell 18:02, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

GSN mentioning in the Epsiode Status[edit]

I think it's ok to leave GSN in the episode status box, to let even know that GSN may be getting the rights to these shows. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nextbarker (talkcontribs) 03:54, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

Fair use rationale for Image:PrimeGames.jpg[edit]

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BetacommandBot 19:30, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

I've added a detailed fair use rationale for the image. Casey Abell 20:05, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

The three shots of the same logo in the "Dark Period" section[edit]

Wholly unnecessary. The only thing different is the background of that particular spot. Lambertman 13:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Maybe one of the first two could go, but the third is slightly different with a variant ball pattern and the omission of "network." But I don't care much one way or the other. I did provide fair use rationales for the images because of my general inclusionist principles. If you eliminate one of the two very similar logos, the image will eventually get deleted as an orphan.
Also, it seems that the "network for games" logo should be relocated to one of the following sections. Casey Abell 14:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Recent changes to "Recent changes"[edit]

For some reason an IP editor axed the entire paragraph on 2006 changes. I restored it. Maybe the paragraph could be trimmed, but it makes no sense to drop it completely. I also rewrote some of the added material on 2007 changes for accuracy, NPOV and brevity. The switch back to traditional and older game shows began long before Cronin left the network, and the article shouldn't editorialize on which developments are "positive." The added details on the latest promotional campaigns are insignificant, in my view, but I'll let others decide if they should remain. IMO, the only slightly notable item on the promos is the "you can't write this stuff" tagline during the writers strike. Casey Abell (talk) 18:43, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I also rearranged some existing material for better chronological order. The section now flows logically from 2005 to 2006 to 2007. Casey Abell (talk) 22:11, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Game Show Network 94.jpg[edit]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

New page move request[edit]

Since GSN doesn't refer to itself as "Game Show Network" anymore, and there is no other article on Wikipedia with the initials "GSN", wouldn't it now be appropriate to move this page to GSN? When the name-change was made, I specifically remember rhe fact that it was just GSN now, that it didn't stand for anything. -- bmitchelfTF 15:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Article organization/content[edit]

I think that this article relies too heavily on programming information, and there is not much information on anything else but a very detailed list of acquisitions over the 14 years it has been on the air.

I think that most programming information should be removed from the history section and either moved to the programming section or be removed completely, because it just does not make sense to have all of these lists of games shows when there is already a section for programming, let alone an entire article with a list of programming. Since there is already a programming list for this television channel article, I think the amount of programming information on the main article should be severely trimmed or removed.

I'm not trying to say that the whole article should be removed, but it needs to be more focused on the channel and not be so overwhelmed with programming information. Does anyone have anything to say about this? Agree/Disagree? 53180 (talk) 22:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)53180.

I concur. There is no reason for the site to be loaded down with programming changes, etc. Modor (talk) 10:26, 14 November 2008 (UTC)Modor

The alleged "controversies"[edit]

The alleged controversies in the section are only shared by a small faction of the posters on GSN's message boards and don't represent a true sample of the population, nor do they represent GSN's audience as a whole. Suggest removing this section. Modor (talk) 10:41, 22 September 2008 (UTC)Modor

Contact Information for Corporations Listed on Wikipedia[edit]

I can not find the contact information (mailing address, phone number, e-mail, etc.) for the Game Show Network page. I suggest that all Wikipedia pages concerning existing corporations include the contact information. Case in point: I am trying to contact GSN because many of their shows do not have closed-captioning. It appears that the FCC has a "rule" that citizens must first contact - in writing - an out-of-compliance broadcaster. That may mean that we have to do the legwork for the FCC. I could not find any address or contact information on the GSN and the GSN Corporate websites. (Tesseract501) 00:13, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

DirecTV's Game Lounge as GSN Game Lounge[edit]

I noticed on Friday night/Saturday morning while browsing the networks on DirecTV, that GSN had took over Game Lounge on DirecTV. Can anyone find the sources on this? King Shadeed 12:32, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Mediacom Cable Company[edit]

Should it be added, if so how and where, that Mediacom Cable Company has removed GSN from all of it's systems. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.72.85.62 (talk) 16:12, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Why was my edit reverted?[edit]

GSN doesn't air Password anymore. It hasn't in two years. The contract to air it went up a long time ago. GSN doesn't air Ray Combs Family Feud either. It hasn't for a while. Why was my edit reverted? 24.185.219.21 (talk) 22:21, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

GSN Has No Slogan At All?[edit]

GSN's slogan is not "The World Needs More Winners" anymore!!!! So what is GSN's new slogan right now???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.95.62.117 (talk) 20:36, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

That is still their slogan! They haven't changed it or stopped using it! - Caringtype1 (talk) 19:57, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

I propose that the name of this article be changed to GSN. The network now goes by only "GSN" and now no longer "Game Show Network." As such, though "Game Show Network" may still function as a legal name, "GSN" is the common name nowadays. As a result, I feel that under its current name, the article would not be in line with the times. I believe that Wikipedia articles for current-era organizations (yes, TV channels included) should be named solely to reflect what is current. - Seth Allen (discussion/contributions), Saturday, January 20, 2013, 01:41 UTC.

I don't agree with that at all. Game Show Network is its name. That's what the article needs to be called. - Caringtype1 (talk) 01:49, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
But "GSN" is the common name. In WP:COMMONNAME there is a rule that states, "The most common name for a subject, as determined by its prevalence in reliable English-language sources, is often used as a title because it is recognizable and natural. Editors should also consider the criteria outlined [in the "Deciding on an article title" section]." In the case of this network, the "Game Show Network" name is used in a lesser number of sources than "GSN".
None of these sources refer to the channel as "Game Show Network" even once.
Examples of articles where the channel is still referred to as "Game Show Network":
The "Game Show Network" name has been retired from official usage by the channel. Taking all of that into consideration, it can be implied that that "GSN" is officially the common name nowadays. - Seth Allen (discussion/contributions), Saturday, January 20, 2013, 18:42 UTC.