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What about him?[edit]

Statement Of His Eminence The Gaden Tri Rinpoche (Head Of Gelukpa Sect) Regarding The Worship Of Gods And Protectors 20 Sep 1996 . He seems to be the head, not the Dalai Lama.

Austerlitz -- 88.75.196.4 (talk) 21:50, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
It's difficult to describe the relationship between the Dalai Lama and the Ganden Tripa, I suppose because neither of them has had an interest in clarifying the details in a long time. The Ganden Tripa is often described as the head of the Gelug sect, but the Ganden Tripa is appointed by the Dalai Lama.—Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 03:02, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
What is the name of the actual Gaden Tri Rinpoche? It is not mentioned. Do you know? :Austerlitz -- 88.75.219.181 (talk) 08:54, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Sorry to take so long to respond. The current 101st Ganden Tripa's name is listed in the article: "Ven. Khensur Lungri Namgyel".—Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 11:24, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Yes, true. When did he become the Ganden Tripa? another link [1] says: "HH the 100th Ganden Tri Rinpoche, Lobsang Nyima Rinpoche, was requested by HH the 14th Dalai Lama in 1995, to be the supreme Spiritual Head of the holy Gelugpa Tradition. Since then, His Holiness the Ganden Tri Rinpoche has served as the supreme ThroneHolder of Lama Tzongkhapa, untiringly working for the Dharma and all mother beings."
Austerlitz -- 88.75.93.86 (talk) 13:42, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Austerlitz -- 88.75.93.86 (talk) 13:42, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

The predecessor of the 101st Ganden Tripa has been the 100th Ganden Tripa, His Eminence Lobsang Nyima :"And in 1994, he deservingly ascended the Golden Throne of Lama Je Tsongkha and thus became the 100th Gaden Tripa Rinpoche. There is a popular saying among our predecessors that 100th Gaden Tripa would be a manifestation of the great Je Tsongkha in person, gaining an added significance. In 2001 (iron-Dragon year), he was conferred the coveted Honorary Doctorate Degree by Tibetan Institute of Higher Studies, Varanasi for his all-round knowledge on both Sutra and Tantra."

Austerlitz -- 88.75.93.86 (talk) 10:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Golden Throne Please check, my insertions may contain faults.

Austerlitz -- 88.75.93.86 (talk) 10:43, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

another link added [2].

Austerlitz -- 88.75.93.86 (talk) 10:45, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Eh? Golden Throne is a disambiguation page.—Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 11:24, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Yes, true.

ThroneHolder of Lama Tzongkhapa, Golden Throne of Lama Je Tsongkha, Golden Throne of Tzongkhapa; nothing to be found @wikipedia. :Austerlitz -- 88.75.93.86 (talk) 13:42, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Zong Rinpoche received his full ordination from the Thirteenth Dalai Lama at the Potala Palace, and soon after that, during even his first year at the monastery, his teachers began to see in the young lama the makings of a talented debater. During an all-night debating session on Pramana between Ganden's twin colleges of Shartse and Jangtse, he surprised the senior Jangtse scholars with the depth of his debating skills."

Trijang Rinpoche held the position of the Ganden Tripa, too, is said there, when is not mentioned though.

Austerlitz -- 88.75.93.86 (talk) 11:18, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Alexander Berzin [4] says: "The present throne holder, Tri Rinpoche Yeshey-tubten (Khri Rin-po-che Ye-shes thub-bstan), is the ninety-ninth of this line. The term of office is seven years." this name -as it seems to me- doesn't go together with the name of the 99th Gaden Tripa I've added to the article already.

Austerlitz -- 88.75.93.86 (talk) 23:11, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
They appear to be the same name, except that one source or another has confused the names Thubtän and Dhöndän; or else he had both names, which is also possible. What's your source?—Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 23:57, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
The source for Venerable Yeshe Dhönden as 99th Ganden Tripa is Kagyu Office website. Austerlitz -- 88.72.25.46 (talk) 08:16, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Where to put this?[edit]

Austerlitz -- 88.75.204.92 (talk) 11:31, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

the 98th Ganden Tripa "The 98th Ganden Tripa, who is called Ganden Tri Rinpoche (the holder of the precious throne at Ganden) was enthroned by the Dalai Lama in March 1984 and is head of the Ganden monastery at Mundgod in southern India." [5] :Austerlitz -- 88.75.72.76 (talk) 08:01, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Ganden Tripa[edit]

At German wikipedia the complete list of Ganden Tripas is to be found.

Austerlitz -- 88.72.13.89 (talk) 20:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
  • [6] "The head of the Gelug tradition, the Ganden Tripa (dGa’-ldan khri-pa, Ganden Throne Holder), is a position that any qualified monk can attain. The position alternates between the senior-most retired abbots of Gyumay (rGyud-smad Grva-tshang) and Gyuto (rGyud-stod Grva-tshang) Upper and Lower Tantric Colleges and is for seven years only."
Austerlitz -- 88.75.88.89 (talk) 11:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

"Seit seiner Gründung ist Ganden der Sitz des Ganden Tripa (tib. dGa’-ldan Khri-pa) gewesen. Der Ganden Tripa ist der Halter des Goldenen Thrones von Ganden und das Haupt der Gelug-Tradition. Diese Tradition, die auf Tsongkhapa zurückgeht, wird auch nach dem Ganden-Kloster als „Ganden-Tradition“ (tib. dGa’-ldan lugs) bezeichnet. „Lug“ bedeutet Tradition und „Gelug“ ist eine Abkürzung für „ Ganden Lug.“"

Austerlitz -- 88.75.89.225 (talk) 11:05, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Is he no. 97?[edit]

  • H.H. Gaden Tri Rinpoche Yong Dzin Ling
  • [8] H.H. Gaden Tri Rinpoche Yong Dzin Ling, in office 1961
Austerlitz -- 88.75.196.36 (talk) 06:03, 4 November 2008 (UTC)