Talk:GaragePunk Hideout

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Do not delete, please![edit]

There are dozens of less significant websites in the Musical Websites category. This one happens to be on top for it's genre, and has members and listeners worldwide.

There are no sources that back this claim up. Please read wp:rs Hell In A Bucket (talk) 13:50, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I understand. Let me see what the founder (who isn't me) has as far as external praise or notoriety goes. Several of the podcasts themselves are companions to local radio station broadcasts, and some of the podcasters have their own record label. --Mainstreetmark (talk) 14:06, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I would suggest copyinh your work to your user page. It might be deleted in the meantime and we wouldn't want you to lose your hard work. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 14:08, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I added a few sources. Newspaper articles, and a blog. As the community gets involved with this article, more sources are sure to pop up. --Mainstreetmark (talk) 19:21, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I'm the founder of GaragePunk.com and the GaragePunk Podcast Network and I was notified by a few of my site's members of this page. I have been diligently maintaining this site since June 2001 and the podcasts since August 2005. We have consistently had more than 1,300 subscribers to our podcast for at least two years now, and each of our shows averages more than 3,000 downloads. I can provide screen shots of our stats pages for subscribers/downloads if it will help, but trust me, these stats are legit. I'm not sure what other information/factual evidence you guys would require to leave this entry alone and not mark it for deletion, but I'm all ears... so let's hear it. kopper (talk) 03:34, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

One thing I forgot to mention: The GaragePunk Podcast Network is also proudly one of just 105 featured music podcasts on the iTunes Podcast Directory. See screen shot: http://www.garagepunk.com/wp-content/blogimages/itunesfeaturedpodcasts.jpg kopper (talk) 03:43, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Beating out the Jonas Brothers, eh? That's Notable!--Mainstreetmark (talk) 05:00, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Help me "improve" the article[edit]

This article has been tagged with several issues requiring cleanup. I likely don't disagree, but every other article in the "Music Podcasts" also have many of these same issues, yet contain no such warning.

When creating the article initially, I judged this podcast to be at least as notable as the other ones currently living in the "Music Podcasts" directory here on wikipedia. One of them (Filthcast) has only 14 episodes. This podcast network has more podcasters than that one has episodes, and most of the podcasters have more than fifty podcasts each.

All other podcasts in this directory (aside from CBC of course) have no real significant links from other articles, mostly from the author's user pages.

Searching for "Garage Punk" in the iTunes podcast directory lists about 80 podcasts, 21 of which are part of Garage Punk Podcast Network. Can search results for iTunes be used as a source for this article?

I see the owner did make changes, but do you feel they are overly promotional, or simply correcting facts?

Help me help you. --Mainstreetmark (talk) 02:01, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

What's the problem here?[edit]

The owner? Yeah, that's me. I found the article, was surprised by the amount of information it contained, but some of it was simply wrong. I corrected what was wrong. That's not being promotional, it's simply correcting it so that it's FACTUAL. Would Wikipedia's editors rather leave it incorrect, waiting for someone else to come along and correct it, or have someone who actually knows what's going on correct it? I don't see why me making a few edits here or there matters at all. And mainstreetmark has a very valid point regarding the other music podcasts listed here on Wikipedia. Why are you guys picking on this one? My podcast has almost 1,000 episodes. Try finding another independent music podcast that's been around as long as mine has and has as many episodes. Good luck!

kopper (talk) 02:55, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Addressing the issues[edit]

There have been a number of criticisms of the article which I have attempted to clean up:

It was claimed that the article contained "major edits by the site owner" on Sept 17th 2009, however, whilst it is true that Jeff Kopp has contributed a few minor factual corrections, the article has barely changed since my own re-write on Aug 15th 2007 (and I am certainly no site owner...). ‘Kopper’ has since vowed to refrain from making any further edits. As such, I also fail to see why a quote from Kopper regarding the founding of the site was removed from the history section. Surely a creator’s intentions for the founding of a site are intrinsic to a description of its history?

The notability of the site has been questioned a couple of times as has the on the claim that GaragePunk.com is "the leading social network, media centre and blog portal... etc..." however surely the position is supported by the data offered in the rest of the introductory paragraph; the site receives over 18,500 hits a day, has over 3000 members, and is one of the few 'Featured Podcasts' on iTunes (and one of even fewer independently produced, non-commercially linked podcasts offered on iTunes). In all honesty GP.com is probably the ONLY site of its kind, never mind the leading one.

I will admit that placing links to the individual podcasts could possibly be regarded as self-promotion (although I see it as somewhat of a tenuous claim...) I believe a list of the programmes offered deserves a place in the article.

Claims the article is an ‘orphan’ are well-founded and the GP.com community is currently working on linking the page to associated record labels, etc, in addition to finding a greater range of external third-party sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnnySingles (talkcontribs) 00:47, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Changes made![edit]

I have made changes to this page due to the information been out of date and incorrect. This is to create consistency between the Wikipedia Page and the actual website (GaragePunk Hideout). References within the article that said "The GaragePunk Podcast Network" as the website name have been changed to say "GaragePunk Hideout". This page needs to be moved and renamed to "GaragePunk Hideout" because that is the name of the site where the podcasts are based. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fuzzmonster303 (talkcontribs) 05:15, 13 December 2011 (UTC)