Talk:Garage rock

Turn On

Any1 looking for a brand new garage rock revival band, check out turn on [[1]] right out of Canada —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.224.168.196 (talk) 04:26, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

reply

In reply to the comment offered up below, and to quote Chris Gaylord, of The Lyrics fame, "All I can say about that is, 'So What!'"

Damn garage rock bands love using the word The in their names. Anyone notice that? --Arm GODdamn garage bands use Thee —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 20:09, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Garage band

There should be pages about the garage band software made by Apple and by the Garage Band website [2]

There was a link to Cotton Mouth here that goes to the dryness of the mouth condition. I changed it so it goes to the disambiguation page. If there is a Cotton Mouth garage band someone can add it there. Superclear 22:46, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

The garage rock catagories should remain as they are due to the fact that identifying each era is important to some. For example, some folks may be strictly interested in information on original 60's garage rock, while others may be interested in all forms of garage rock, even some which is deemed and often catagorized as revivalist garage rock. My vote is to keep the catagories era specific. Hamilton Styden 06:17, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Too US?

I know that the US had lots of Garage Bands but so did the UK. The Troggs, who are mentioned in the article, are one of the most popular garage bands. This article doesn't seem to acknowldge the British garage scene which ultimately led to the punk scene. DR. Martin Hesselius 18:23, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Garage Rock is the true Punk Rock as this is the original

The Punk Rock sound of the 70's grew out of the true Punk Rock that was hitting the headlines in the States. To try and rename the true punk rock to Garage Rock is wrong. The sound that was started by the Ramones and the Sex Pistols etc is just an angle from Punk Rock that took a major explosion into the world press. Even the CBGB venue in New York will confirm this. The sound and attitude coming from the Bromley contingent was just Shock Rock aimed to shock and create an image. If anything it is this part of Punk Rock that should adopt a new name and we should not compromise history due to many peoples biasisms and ignorance.

Punk Rock is basically a term for Rock 'n' Roll in its rawest form played by amatures. Punk Rock is a music developed in the 60's that didn't recieve its title until the early 70's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsigano (talk • contribs) 16:30, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Punk and Garage are part of the same line that might go something like Bo Diddley etc, British Invasion, Garage, Iggy, NYDolls, Ramones, UK Punk, Black Flag etc, and then so on. I think the telling thing that happens at the same time that the "punk" tag comes along is that the music gets really fast. Classic Garage can have a really belligerence, but often with a mid-tempo swagger. So keeping the genres seperate is useful. Almost-instinct 09:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I think the article should make it clearer that this genre developed from the music of 50s artists such as Little Richard and Richard Berry. Rp (talk) 09:11, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

The name garage rock

The article claims that the name refers to the fact that many of these bands rehearsed in garages; isn't it more significant that the records sound as if they're coming from a garage? Rp (talk) 09:11, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Alice Cooper?

Why... is Alice Cooper Not mentioned in this article? the Alice Cooper Band helped popularize the genre garage rock in the late 60's and early 70's, and through to the 80's. - -[The Spooky One] | ^{[t c r]} 07:59, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Looking through Alice Cooper I see nothing that refers to Garage rock. Aren't their roots more in Psych.? Including him here would strike me as POV. My own POV is that AC is on the road to metal, not to punk... Maybe if you could find some other people's opinions about how the core of mid-sixties Garage rock subsequently led onto Psych and thence to Glam that would be a usful extra section, perhaps called something along "subsequent influence". Yours, a little staidly, Almost-instinct 13:07, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Last year i did a research project on AC and i found many book sources that stated that the Alice Cooper Band was one of the pioneers in early Garage Rock. It really should be worth mentioning in the article, just a tad bit, one sentence. - -[The Spooky One] | ^{[t c r]} 10:56, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Um, having been doing some thinking ... don't know what you'll make of this:

• Since Garage Rock has its roots in the late 50s I can't really see how Alice Cooper could be a pioneer of early Garage Rock
• Pre-name change Alice Cooper ("The Spiders") were clearly operating in that scene, in the scene's usual, not-very-successful way
• The article at the moment says that Garage Rock in its classic incarnation was spent by 1968—and then was "revived" four years later! Clearly something happens in between...
• Garage Rock, in its classic form, is essentially a naive genre. Choosing "Alice Cooper" as the name of a band is the opposite; a theatrical gesture.
• Leaving Garage Rock and becoming theatrical is probably the first notable thing about Alice Cooper.
• This transformation would fill the mysterious gap in the chronology from 1968–72. I suggest the opening paragraph of the "revival" section should be on AC. Something like "with their roots in garage rock as The XXXXs they developed in this way ... moving away from that ... using these parts of the tradition ... etc"
• Once that's done the section might want to be changed from "revival" to "developments and revivals" almost-instinct 14:26, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

New Irish Band?

What's with the one line advert for 'new irish phenomenon' or whatever, right at the end? it doesn't fit. It's ADVERTISING. makeitgoaway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Levis517 (talk • contribs) 14:09, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

2 sub-genres or 1

At the moment the article is in the odd position of having two infoboxes. If garage band and the revival are the same sub-genre there should probably be one box, if not, perhaps there should be two articles. Opinions and polite suggestions welcome.--Sabrebd (talk) 13:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Merger proposal

Since Frat rock is also known as early Garage rock it seems logical to merge information here and simply point out the alternative name.--SabreBD (talk) 00:24, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Not Enough Detail

I believe that the whole article is too brief with a lot of information missing and too brief.Garage Rock is a vast musical genre and this article is much too short to cover the vast topic that is Garage Rock —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.253.57.245 (talk) 12:48, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Theburning25 (talk) 06:58, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

why was the page redirected to "garage band"?

garage rock is a real genre from the 1960's. any modern rock 'n' roll historian can tell you that. can someone explain why it was redirected to a different article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smashyourface86 (talk • contribs) 06:05, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

No I can't, but I have restored the article. Thanks for drawing this to the attention of editors.--SabreBD (talk) 08:36, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Garage Rock vs Post Punk

Garage rock is a retronym for the rock bands of the 1960s whose musical style had a major influence on early punk bands. Such artists include The Standells and The Atlatnics.

Post punk is a retronym for a do-it-yourself variant of new wave music. Artists include New Order and Joy Division.

Garage rock revival artists include The White Stripes and Jet. These artists provide a punk-blues style reminiscent of the original sixties rock sound.

By comparison, the post punk revival does not in any way resemble garage rock.

In my opinion, garage rock and post punk should not be categorized together. AmericanLeMans (talk) 19:18, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Opinion is not very important on Wikipedia, [[WP:Verifiability|verifiability is. Do you have and reliable sources that indicate that this is the case?--SabreBD (talk) 19:29, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

We could go per allmusic: Garage rock revival vs. Post-punk revival. Garage rock revival, according to them, has been going on since the 1980s and relates to Garage punk and "garage rock revival bands aimed to recapture the wild, rowdy, raucous spirit of '60s garage rock", while Post-punk revival refers to bands that "surfaced with clear indebtedness to post-punk and new wave", not to Garage rock. In other words, there's difference in time of appearance and in influences. Yes, bands such as The Libertines, The Strokes, Arctic Monkeys and Yeah Yeah Yeahs tend to be categorized as both sometimes. But do you have any specific source stating that any of the following have had some sort of influence of Garage rock?: Interpol, The Killers, Bloc Party, Editors. For that matter, most of those bands appear in this list of post-punk revival bands, but they seem not to be usually mentioned in lists of Garage rock revival.

In addition, post-punk revival states nothing about garage rock (save for a mention in the "see also"). (And on a personal note, putting Garage rock revival and Post-punk revival in the same category is as inaccurate as putting 60s garage rock bands with late 70s/80s post-punk bands.) --186.82.60.241 (talk) 17:45, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Allmusic do use the term for two different things in this case, but that doesn't mean that the terms have not been used indiscriminately. For example, see the extract at: [3].--SabreBD (talk) 18:54, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Just because they're used indiscriminately (in this case, with the case of The Strokes, a band that, as I said, tends to be put as both garage rock and post-punk revival) doesn't mean there is not a distinction/difference between the terms. And for that matter, the author also uses "noise rock" and "grunge-pop" as examples of "neo-punk" of the 90s, would that mean that we have to indiscriminately use those terms to refer to these bands too? But the point stands, is there any source that refers to any of those bands mentioned above (and most featuring on the post-punk revival bands category) as garage rock? --186.82.60.241 (talk) 23:27, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

I mean... I guess my only objections are the appearance of post-punk revival bands that are not qualified for the most part as garage rock revival and the fact that the article mentions how post-punk revival seems to be only an alternative name to the garage rock movement of the late 90s/00s when it clearly is a separate, albeit somewhat related, genre --186.82.60.241 (talk) 23:41, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

In the end we will need to come up with some form of words that outlines the different ways the terms are used, both for distinct bands and interchangeably. I will give it some thought, but I am open to suggestions.--SabreBD (talk) 21:09, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking something like "In the 2000s, another garage rock revival, sharing some common artists with the post-punk revival movement that appeared during the late 90s" etc. but I don't know what you think. --186.82.60.241 (talk) 04:35, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Something along those lines would be good. Perhaps "In the early 2000s, garage rock artists received a level of airplay and commercial success that was unprecedented for past bands attempting to revive the subgenre." List off a few and then mention "There was a great level of intersection between garage rock and a simultaneously occurring post-punk revival as evidenced by bands such as..."--ARomanNamedStatusQuo (talk) 16:53, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

To be honest, I think I prefer the more less elaborate first one. It also needs to correspond with the sources.--SabreBD (talk) 19:12, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

2000s "garage punk"

The recently added last paragraph on bands that emerged in the mid-2000s has been deleted and re-added several times, including readdding by myself. However, I can see why it was deleted as it is not clear that these bands are garage rock (most are described by their Wikipedia pages as garage punk - for what that is worth). Their status could be debated, but a more important issue is that most of this is without reliable sources and has been tagged for some time. If anyone wants to keep this could they provide a rationale and preferably some sources. Otherwise I will delete the unsourced material soon and then look at what is left and whether we can justify keeping it.--SabreBD (talk) 09:53, 30 January 2012 (UTC)