Talk:Gatlinburg, Tennessee

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Changes 5/19/2007[edit]

1. I greatly expanded the History section and sub-divided it, adding hard-copy source material.

2. I moved some of the photos around in an attempt to have them match their section heading to some extent. Also, most of the photos were at the top, and were choking the flow of the text. I added one photo of Ogle's grave.

3. I expanded the Geography section to include paragraphs regarding topography and roads, and placed the Geography section before the History section, since the town's geographical situation was largely responsible for its history.

4. I removed the Unrefenced Sources tag. If there is anything else in the article that is unreferenced, please point it out rather than simply placing a tag at the top.

Bms4880 11:06, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Radford Gatlin and Richard Gatling[edit]

Carlos Campbell, who is normally accurate, claims that Radford Gatlin was the brother of Gatling gun inventor Richard Gatling (Birth of a National Park, p. 88). I searched various genealogy sites on the web and can find no connection between the two, although they are both from North Carolina. Campbell doesn't give a citation, so I'll assume he's wrong unless we find a more definite source.

Bms4880 11:11, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Gatlinburg Fire Department[edit]

This section needs some editing. There are some inconsistencies in the number of employees and in the breakdown between, paid, part-time, and volunteer employees. Also the sentance about the department geting 8 call in a year seems to be sitting out there on its own. I'm assuming it refers to how many calls they got the first year, but that is not clear from how it is currently written. If anyone knows for sure the facts for this section please edit.

Police & Fire Dept.[edit]

Any opposition to removing these two sections? There's no real notability and the information is very unencyclopedic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.78.174.27 (talk) 01:08, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Bms4880 (talk) 13:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Removed RaseaC (talk) 15:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Climate edits disagreements[edit]

What's up with these back and forth edits over climate stats? Is it an issue about which source to use (weather.com or weatherbase.com in this case) or something else? The history here of late seems rather messy -- lots of IPs, banned and new editors, spaced back and forth edits skirting edit warring, unhelpful edit summaries, etc. -- and I could find no discussions about this issue on any talk pages or noticeboards. What is the problem here? Flowanda | Talk 02:54, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

A few weeks ago (in early March), someone added this "Climate" section, and almost immediately, two editors-- one using IP 75.74.66.185, one using "Y2Kfreak" started making erratic changes to it. So I fixed the numbers and added a citation (weather.com) to support the numbers. These two editors continued to try and change them, often adding numbers inconsistent with previous edits. As far as I can tell, "Y2Kfreak" was on the verge of being banned, and a user named "Blobmaster33" showed up to continue making erratic edits. They typically try and add an unsubstantiated paragraph and then change a few of the numbers (their numbers edits are often inconsistent with previous edits, such as those made on April 27 and May 3, e.g.).
They're also active on several other articles, such as Volcán Tajumulco, List of tallest buildings in Miami, Mount Le Conte, and Kendall, Florida. They occasionally post info meant for one article to the wrong article. Bms4880 (talk) 14:31, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
I was hoping to draw out these editors to help solve these unproductive edits, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen. I actually think a description of the city's climate would be far more stable and interesting than an overpowering chart that does nothing but list everchanging statistics, but as you've pointed out, the info needs to be sourced. I'd be happy to dig up some sources for creating a more descriptive section if needed, but will leave any decisions up to the more experienced editors in this area. Flowanda | Talk 23:47, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm fine with it so long as it has a verifiable citation. I'm not particularly attached to the weather chart, and I only added the present numbers to bring stability, as two vandals (possibly sockpuppets of the same user) were consistently changing it. Thanks in advance for any help. Bms4880 (talk) 02:52, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
I say delete the chart. It's nothing but raw (and everchanging) statistics sourced to an also everchanging number of non reliable sources that provide no real information to readers or stability to the project -- and there seems to be no conclusive decision I could find on Wikipedia as to how or what to include about this subject. Flowanda | Talk 05:41, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
That works for me. Bms4880 (talk) 16:31, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Climate content issues[edit]

I again removed the climate section template being added by a new editor with the same editing habits as blocked editors. The content appears to be copied directly from Weatherbase.com, which appears to be a copyvio. Fair use would be to mention a few temperatures as part of a section discussing climate, not copying and updating huge chunks of compiled data. Flowanda | Talk 23:25, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

The user making these changes, Gatlinburg22, was a sockpuppet of the user who shows up every few months or so to re-add the climate section, and has been banned. Bms4880 (talk) 14:39, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

2004 Flood damage[edit]

Based on the fact that the Ripleys fire is mentioned in the article we should probably mention the flood damage from 2004. I can't quote monetary figures off hand but from first hand experience I do remember that every hotel that bordered the Pigeon River took damage. I will research some sources. J.Rly (talk) 05:28, 7 March 2011 (UTC)