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In the Goths article an entirely different Proto-Germanic etymology is given solely. They are both mentioned here, but not in a harmonious fashion. --Fire Star 15:44, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
yes, the article is problematic. It seems to be presenting the speculations of a single 1996 paper as fact. I am confident Wiglaf is accurately reporting the content of the paper, but this needs to be put into wider perspective. dab(𒁳) 15:33, 30 March 2007 (UTC)