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Wikipedia has another long section on the Buddha, with info. that could be included here.[edit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_Buddhism#The_Buddha

A simple edit request[edit]

As in the article, Present day India is included in Death place, can't Present day Nepal be included after Lumbini .I tried it but NeilN reverted the edit. So I want to make WP:CONSENSUS here. AmRit GhiMire "Ranjit" 13:12, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

I wonder why Bladesmulti is ahead in reverting my edit.

Is adding following info against WP:NPOV ?

"King Śuddhodana and Queen Māyādevī are believed to have lived at Kapilavastu, as did their son Prince Siddartha Gautama until he left the palace at the age of 29.[1]"
  1. ^ Trainor, K (2010). "Kapilavastu". In Keown, D; Prebish, CS. Encyclopedia of Buddhism. Milton Park, UK: Routledge. pp. 436–7. ISBN 978-0-415-55624-8. 
WP:UNDUE. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 14:22, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
But I was just adding that Gautam Buddha was grown up in Kapilavastu.Is it WP:UNDUE ? AmRit GhiMire "Ranjit" 14:35, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── It's being mentioned in the article. It's undue for the lead. What's relevant is that he grew up in the area of "greater Gandhara". It's not relevant that now, 2,500 years later, that area is part of the state of Nepal. You're not interested in Buddha or Buddhism, nor in improving Wikipedia, but only in associating your nationality with a figure of great stature, to enhance your personal self-esteem. The Buddha may be relevant for Nepal, but Nepal is not relevant for Buddhism. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 15:06, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

It may be right

The Buddha may be relevant for Nepal, but Nepal is not relevant for Buddhism. But it was also removed from Nepal. Next in the lead Nepal is not mentioned due to WP:UNDUE as per you but inclusion of India related info is not WP:UNDUE.

Also in infobox Present day India is not undue but Present day Nepal is undue as per you. Can you explain reason? AmRit GhiMire "Ranjit" 15:21, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
You are making a Wikipedia:Point without reading those citations. Bladesmulti (talk) 15:27, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @Amrit Ghimire Ranjit: ...Sigh...You're still not getting it are you? Please abide by the rules or go someplace else.  Philg88 talk 16:42, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes, any nationality is not important in this regard, but what is important is 'Fact'. Birth place and birth date are globally accepted to be the one of the important information for biography. How come it becomes nationality or self esteem ego if you include true information which is even validated by UNESCO? What is the purpose of forcefully including India and its old empires in first two paragraphs and forgetting his grow up and impact in today's world ? Are not these information equally important? Why some admins of this page are biased towards some country? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.108.243.28 (talk) 09:03, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Gautama Buddha[edit]

गोतम बुद्धा महान संत थे लेकिन वो विष्णु के अवतार नहीं थे', बुद्ध ने ईश्वर की सत्ता को नाकारा, Gotam budhha Neglet the avatar of God, They are Not Avatar of Vishnu. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.91.157.15 (talk) 06:10, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

It says some, not all. Bladesmulti (talk) 06:20, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

A question regarding the tradition depiction of Buddha[edit]

Does anybody know why Buddha is depicted with hair and a hair bun, when the people involved in early sramana movement had their head shaven. Buddha most likely would have been shaven when he was younger, and bald by the time he was old. I have never understood this, or seen an explanation for it. It might be worth writing down in the article. Manoguru (talk) 07:11, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

buddha was and is an integral part of hinduism[edit]

i gained information beyond limits when i read this page. im an indian and as well as a hindu. im confused to see why bhagwaan buddh ( lord buddha) is depicted as "in other religion" with regard to hinduism. i totally disagree with aformentioned statement which says"buddha was not the avtar of vishnu". buddha is concidered as the manifestation of vishnu in its 9th avtar, and the same is widely regarded by most. yes since hinduism predates to the time when indus valley civilization was booming,and its possible that certain regional dieties may also be concidered by some, to be manifestation of god, but bhagwaaan buddh was clearly an avtar of vishnu as per "vishnu puran , narad puran , garud puran" and many more. yes he himself refused to acknowledge that , but a divine soul, a great sage and a great guru, will but offcourse say so.after all he was above material punchant. also, hinduism is not only a religion but a philosophy too. it is flexible and based on focal point that truth is same but has different manifestations. it believes that the eternal energy reincarnates to uplift mankind ,time and again. bhagwaan pashuram also was a hermit. please dont just limit Him in hinduism to "other religions". atleast in beginning it can be mentioned, that he is a "known to be 9th avatar of vishnu", other wiki pages have done so, then why not this page which is about Him please revert back. for most this is a matter of faith. thankyou. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nurmengrad (talkcontribs) 15:18, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

birth place[edit]

Lumbini lies in nepal. Why birthplace of Buddha is not mentioned in page? Nepal most be use instead of shakya Republic. Cause shakya Republic is not exist. Oikuchu (talk) 03:07, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

The Shakya Republic was the state that existed at the time of the Buddha. The ancient states are used rather than the modern borders due to repeated edit warring. Nepal is identified as the modern location of Lumbini in the history section, in accordance with the contemporary border. You can find more information in the archived talk pages if you are interested. --Spasemunki (talk) 07:21, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Is Buddha a role model for the human male?[edit]

Is the Buddha a role model for the human male? Should a man walk away from the responsibility of supporting a wife and child? 86.178.174.160 (talk) 19:21, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Please "do not use the talk page as a forum or soapbox for discussing the topic. The talk page is for discussing how to improve the article." (WP:TPNO) Best regards JimRenge (talk) 19:51, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Soapbox? Isn't religion, any religion about following a role model? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.49.121.243 (talk) 15:20, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

iranian root[edit]

please use this source in the article.its about recently research about his Iranian root by indian researcher.Iroony (talk) 07:19, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Totally speculative. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 07:27, 7 May 2015 (UTC)