Talk:Generation name

Generation name in Japan?

Was the practice of generation name adopted in Japan? I've never heard that. A samurai clan usually had a character called tsuji (通字), which was used for the names of its members for generations. For example, Ashikaga shoguns used 義 (yoshi) and Tokugawa shoguns used 家 (ie) as tsuji. This practice is clearly different from Chinese generation name.

Menchi calls generation name sedaimei (世代名) in Japanese on this article. I'm curious about the source. --Nanshu 23:23, 21 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. The 世代名 is bad Google search. It turns out to be unrelated to this generation name. --Menchi 02:24, 22 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Examples needed

To make the article more comprehensible to readers not familiar with Chinese names, some examples should be given of Chinese names while identifying the part that is the given name, and the part in there that is the generation name. The term "banci" is introduced without explanation; is it synonymous to "generation name"?  --Lambiam^Talk 19:34, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

banci introduced after Generation Name Hanfresco 02:12, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I plan to rewrite (part of) the article, using examples that link somewhere within Wikipedia. Probably Confucius' family (Kong) is the best example, as their generation names are widely (if not universally) used. Thought I'd give a headup to whoever wrote the examples. Liuyao (talk) 17:37, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Banci more often appear as the second character in a 2-character given name

Is this really a fact? --tess 00:04, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Regional view?

What is the region from whose view this article is written? It certainly does not reflect the general Chinese usage. "Generation name" is called "字辈" in Mandarin and several other dialects, or alternatively "行輩" or "班輩" in Mandarin. See zh:字辈 for more information. My Chinese dictionary defines "班次" as "(1) (in schools) the order of classes; (2) the frequency of operation of regularly timetabled modes of transportation, e.g. busses."

And, as per last question, where I come from the generational name is most often the *first* character of the given name, not the second. --Sumple (Talk) 01:55, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Same with where I come from - Hong Kong. I've never known anyone whose generation name is the last character of their name. tess (talk) 20:46, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

It does occur, though less frequently. For example, 李鴻章 and 李鴻藻 are NOT related: the former's generation name is 章 (brother 李瀚章, 李鶴章), while 李鴻藻 is the 鴻 generation from Gaoyang. In some families, the generation names alternates, with one generation using the first character, and the next one the second character, and so forth. Liuyao (talk) 17:15, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Examples

lol seriously, who came up with the siblings' names? It is completely faux pas as it suggests overt conflict between the three.

Lack of context, rearranging the article would help

As I read this article it didn't make any sense until I got to part on generational poems. That is the first place where it talks about establishing lineages. This is the English language edition of Wikipedia and readers cannot be expected to be familiar with the lineage traditions of China. The United States does not have a concept of the founding of a lineage whatsoever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.34.239.79 (talk) 14:52, 31 August 2011 (UTC)