Talk:Geoffrey Chaucer

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[edit] Edit request from 137.190.202.163, 21 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Please remove the following: "It is speculated[who?]" Replace with the following: Numerous scholars such as Skeat, Boitani, and Rowland[1] speculate that 137.190.202.163 (talk) 22:06, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. Thanks. -- Salvio ( Let's talk 'bout it!) 22:14, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Was Chaucer ever knighted?

The article points out his service with the English army, but was he ever knighted? (79.190.69.142 (talk) 23:06, 21 December 2010 (UTC))

No, Chaucer was never knighted, but that is not really unusual. His service was primarily in government and diplomacy, and back in the 1300's, knighthood was as much a matter of practical military service as it was of ascending the class ladder. Chaucer's son, in any case, was knighted, though, and his close connection with the Lancastrian kings certainly brought him the kind of proximity to royalty that few ordinary knights would have known ... Clevelander96 (talk) 01:38, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks (79.190.69.142 (talk) 23:40, 22 December 2010 (UTC))

[edit] Education at Inns of Court

Most modern biographers of Chaucer reject the speculation that he was educated at one of the Inns of Court. The only evidence for claiming Chaucer received a legal education is a single anecdote from the late sixteenth century, without any further confirmation. See [2] Gshuffel (talk) 20:19, 6 July 2011 (UTC)gshuffel

[edit] pronunciation of his surname

Since he was English, I suggest that the pronunciation shouldn't be rhotic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.103.145 (talk) 00:13, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Actually, that would be a mistake. Chaucer and his contemporaries did pronounce /r/ in nearly all instances, including at the end of words, and they pronounced it as a "tap" or "flap." This same sound is still made by modern British RP speakers when the "r" is between vowels, as in "America", which may sound to US ears almost like "ammedica". Clevelander96 (talk) 15:55, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Raptus

I think the section on Chaucer's involvement in the "raptus" of Cecilia Champain/Chaumpaigne. The page incorrectly says that it is unknown what the word mean when in fact the possible meanings of the word, as well as the probably meaning (abduction and rape) are not unknown at all; the Wikipedia pace on "raptus" has a comprehensive list. At the very least the possible meanings should be noted and the readers left to decide for themselves. This was likely a case of rape as we understand it; that is how Chaucer scholars now interpret it (Amtower and Vanhoutte 2009, 85-86). Also, this section doesn't mention that Chaucer was acquitted but that he paid Chaumpaigne £10 and in return she signed a document releasing Chaucer from all actions in the case of "de raptu meo". This was a substantial amount of money and paying it suggests some admission of responsibility (Amtower and Vanhoutte 2009, 113-114).

Basically, this section barely discusses the details of the incident and seems to gloss over the fact that Chaucer was seemingly an accused rapist or kidnapper, was acquitted, but was required to compensate Cecilia. If readers are going to be left to make informed conclusions about this case they need to have all of the tools to do so. In terms of in-depth sources, should anyone choose to check this, the best are probably Donald Howard (1987) and Derek Pearsall (1992) and the 1993 Christopher Cannon article about the case "Raptus in the Chaumpaigne Release and a Newly Discovered Document Concerning the Life of Geoffrey Chaucer". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.167.208.56 (talk) 09:08, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Life

I have made two amendments to the 'Life' section to improve clarity. Could someone who knows the subject check that the material about John Chaucer and Hamo de Copton (which I have left untouched) is clear and accurate.Chrisemms (talk) 10:09, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] what is a pilgrim

what is a pilgrim — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.70.215.62 (talk) 18:43, 29 February 2012 (UTC)


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